Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Sep 22, 2013 5:17:48 am PDT #28938 of 30002
Because books.

ALL OF US QUEER FANS WHO SPN CRAPS ON. Why are Adam Glass’s hurt feelings more valid than our hurt feelings about being portrayed as jokes, predators, and token side characters like Charlie, Barnes, and Damien in a show whose creators and fans like to tout as being so queer positive?

I think he was responding to some Destielers' pressure on Twitter the other day -- I saw a series of tweets from him about how the writers love all their characters and try to tell the best story they can, and not ever purposely hurting the fans, etc. So someone was being an entitled, demanding asshole, I guess.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2013 5:39:36 am PDT #28939 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Was there a specific and recent portrayal of queer as joke or predator, or did he say "You will never get your faggotry in my main plot, only in episodic heroes like Demian and Barnes or well-loved (by fans, writers, cast, and crew) recurring characters like Charlie!" while pissing on a rainbow?

Man, there isn't a megaphone big enough to yell "Safest to assume no writer is waiting for you to tell them what story to write!" If he asked "Hey, who do you want Dean or Castiel to hook u with?" it would be on topic (and he'd be signing his own death warrant), but otherwise...this is literally what your own fanfic is for. It's not like it's not well-published fandom etiquette to not send fanauthors and fanartist unsolicited prompts or requests. Why should a pro be different?


Juliebird - Sep 22, 2013 1:30:28 pm PDT #28940 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Spurred by ita's comments, I have caught up on Misha's Twitter, and omg, the blackberries picture is to die for.

And then later in his pic feed is him and Nathan Fillion, and I just about exploded. Please, yes, them two, on screen together, or at least creating babies in a lab somewhere? (And maybe taking Nathan running because he seems to love his couch hobits a bit too much...).


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2013 5:58:18 pm PDT #28941 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have two D/C fic recommendations, both fairly different.

  • one is a Stargate: SG1 fusion that's *nearly* perfect--the mappings and tone and characterisations for both shows are pretty excellent though I definitely think Sam
should be the archeologist and Charlie might like fieldwork more. Compressed timeline, some "why do I feel these feels", but tiny things: Beyond The Event Horizon by plaintainleaf

  • and a weird H/S AU WIP with Endverse abrasive Cas. She's no Scaramouche and there are way too much hip song lyrics (though, Cure! I took a Just like Heaven break at the appropriate time)--it's one of those ones where I finally feel the author's inclusion of details that might be their life serve the story and characters in an interesting and illuminating way, not just an "I forced my issues onto my favourite ship" or "here's a laundry list of every thought I've ever had about them in loose chronological order" ways: Get Inside My Soul by angelivenantium (Cas tastes likes cigarettes, FTR, and sometimes mint, so far)


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 24, 2013 2:31:31 am PDT #28942 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oooo, is Cas a Jolinar-esque Tok'ra in the first one? It hadn't occurred to me before, but the angel/vessel situation would map really well to symbiont/host.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2013 4:55:21 am PDT #28943 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Go look--finding out the mappings is part of the fun.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2013 5:25:49 am PDT #28944 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I mean, if you don't want to read it, Castiel is Teal'c, and it's basically his transition story, but if you are going to read it, why not be unspoilt?

Okay, I'm writing this idea down because it makes me laugh and I can't decide if I should do it--but I want to! So don't steal it. I want to do a Take On Me style D/C picture.

All because of a stupid VW ad.


Amy - Sep 24, 2013 5:33:28 am PDT #28945 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, I think I saw that! I remember when that video came out.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2013 5:50:55 am PDT #28946 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It could be cute! Plus--black and white, minimal shading. COULD IT BE MORE SUITED TO MY limitationsstyle???


Amy - Sep 24, 2013 5:51:59 am PDT #28947 of 30002
Because books.

IT COULD NOT BE!