Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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le nubian - Mar 03, 2013 10:00:43 am PST #27817 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But I'm not going to go online and tweet to the writers and producers that they should do X, Y, or Z with the story.

I think I did this once - where I went on a board that a show runner/creator visited (I know the person visited) because I got angry with the show and was completely fed up. My complaints had to be aired and my anger tripled because of a podcast the showrunner did where I felt the showrunner was pissing on fans.

In general, I think it is a bad practice and I posted my shit and left (because I didn't want to engage in a back and forth), but I had to let the showrunner know at that time that a show I once loved was ruined because of the showrunner's bad ideas.

Seeing as how the show is still going strong on tv and I've stopped watching it, clearly my irritated post didn't do shit.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2013 10:00:49 am PST #27818 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I never suggest fic.

More like beg...

But she is reminding me of the window where I was so greedily reading Dean/OMC, where there were different convictions about Dean's sexuality--sometimes I thought he'd been okay with his bisexuality since puberty, sometimes he was realising he was bi with that given sexual encounter...but never really looked at everything, including his hookups with women, as a long path to anything other than glorious angelic sex.


Amy - Mar 03, 2013 10:11:38 am PST #27819 of 30002
Because books.

No, I meant suggesting fic for her to read.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2013 12:49:57 pm PST #27820 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why did that not occur to me?

I'll blame it on the headache and irritation and invisible nurse.

Right now I'm so blown away by her interest in the show and joking appreciation for every opportunity to make a Dean/Castiel joke that I don't even know if I want to rock the boat with fic, especially since our tastes are quite different. I'm suspecting my penchant for NC-17 high school AUs would not be what she's looking for, but maybe some of the Dean/OMC I was reading back before I found the male character I most preferred naked with him might be of interest.

She does tend to be at least aware of the fanworks and fandom activity for her other stuff, but that's, apart from our intersection in Inception, in arenas I don't know--still Brokeback Mountain, and a lot of soap operas--often South American and European, although she's currently following WilSon in Days right now.

She's thinking that they got away too lightly from the FBI, so I'm biting my tongue. God, she's really not going to like what's coming up, but I forget that she's got to get through a lot first, LIKE SAM'S DEATH and Dean's deal--and she currently doesn't think Dean could make a deal, based on Crossroads Blues, but that wasn't to save Sam's life, "just" to get John off the rack. But she did bring it up specifically, so more tongue biting and hands on-sitting.

Something in Boxed Set made me look up Mr. Fizzles in SPNwiki, and he's played entirely straight: [link] I'm assuming that's because he was in the credits too, but that's really funny to me.


Amy - Mar 03, 2013 12:54:40 pm PST #27821 of 30002
Because books.

There's a hash tag on Twitter right now called #FictionalDeathsIWillNeverGetOver, and I want to skim it to see if SPN shows up.

I did just see someone tweeting that Misha apparently said, "Jensen is more of a tender, nimbler kisser while Jared just goes for the tonsils," at ECCC.

Oh god, here's another one:

Fan: Feel free to slip more Destiel in. Misha: Maybe just the tip. #ECCC


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2013 12:59:33 pm PST #27822 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thank you, Misha, for doing what thousands of fan-written words weren't actually making me do--visualise your penis.

YOU WIN, OKAY???


Amy - Mar 03, 2013 2:01:54 pm PST #27823 of 30002
Because books.

I think he wants it that way.

There's a clip on Tumblr now, and I'm honestly too chicken to watch it. Some stuff is watch from the hall even for me, it turns out.


Morgana - Mar 03, 2013 5:22:49 pm PST #27824 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Some stuff is watch from the hall even for me, it turns out.

As someone who has never shipped Dean/Castiel it's felt like the tsunami of emotion and tweets and messages and fanfics and whatnot have exploded, and I feel more battered by it than usual. I know the answer is to just skim on by, but my God the signal-to-noise ratio is immense.


Amy - Mar 03, 2013 5:56:43 pm PST #27825 of 30002
Because books.

This looks like so much fun on its own, but how awesome would it be if you could get Sam and Dean on a cover?


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2013 6:42:47 pm PST #27826 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

my God the signal-to-noise ratio is immense

Trust me, shipping them is not a cure. While the canon is an interesting relationship, there are pills that chill that people need to take on the topic. But I really do need to finish reading the post explaining why canon D/C would be a brilliant financial move for the network.

Because...what? I think a queer lead (existing more than a new lead) would be brilliant--I don't care who they're sleeping with (well, as long as they're not related), and I think many of the arguments against said are quite patently coming from homophobic places--none of the ones I've seen rebutted at least (since no one is making them to me, that's my filter) have anything to do with Castiel's character, or Dean's past more than "But he likes sex with women!".

I don't think the right response to that is "this is Nielsen gold". It's more like "if you can't come up with a valid character-related reason against it you just sound like a prejudiced dipshit--reboot and reframe."

how awesome would it be if you could get Sam and Dean on a cover?

That might have been what the publishing company did for the Carver Edlund line, now that I look at it.