Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 7:52:26 am PST #27303 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I found Crowley less entertaining, but I'm willing to trade that for monomaniacally evil in a heartbeat, so I'm content with his behaviour.

I found the moment where Dean saves Sam and Sam thanks him to be where they both realise they do this. That this is important, and that it's the two of them, and Cas can show up occasionally too, and somehow they need to work the logistics out by the end of the episode.

It was pretty obvious that Sam wasn't going back to the hotel room, but I did wonder if it would be a choice to simply not go, or a "I have to do this thing right now" decision. I do feel it was the former--more a "I have to do this thing" period decision.

And Dean breaking up with Benny was pretty much all about Sam. Because if he was solo or had Cas in tow, he could probably drop by for coffee when the urges got too strong even while searching for tablets. But he can't do that without putting stress on his relationship with Sam, and in the end this is why no matter how many times Benny used the word, he was not a brother substitute. Bobby and Cas are family. "Thank you for showing me the way out of Purgatory" would be a big thing in our lives, but compared to what Winchesters do for their own, it's more like a walk in the park.

He doesn't want to fight anymore, poor noodle.

I don't recall--we didn't see that Sam knows he broke it off with Benben, right? Because there was a modicum of mystery about whether Dean was alone or not watching the match, right?

I notice no hard liquor this episode, but it seemed that Sam and Dean had either a beer or a weapon in their hands through most of the episode.

I'm seeing people hypothesise that Crowley was an angel because he had an angel blade at some time, but they are clearly things that can be held and kept, right? It's just angels who manifest them (although I'm not quite sure where Sam was keeping his while they were walking through the warehouse--also, maybe a quieter way to blot out the sigils?) but Crowley could totally have held on to one he found.

I'm curious about what Crowley used to bind Samandriel, and where he learnt it. Did he know that while he was working with Cas?


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 8:08:50 am PST #27304 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love this animated GIF from the ep: [link]


Amy - Jan 17, 2013 9:50:42 am PST #27305 of 30002
Because books.

I love this animated GIF from the ep

Sara cracked up during that scene. "He just appeared! Sam's so surprised! Bwah!"

Because there was a modicum of mystery about whether Dean was alone or not watching the match, right?

I don't think he was in the room when Dean called Benny, but it seemed to me like it was shortly after that they sat down together to eat. No idea if he actually knows Dean called him, though.

If Crowley turns out to be an angel -- after being a crossroads demon and the king of hell -- I will hurt someone.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2013 2:58:06 pm PST #27306 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If Crowley turns out to be an angel -- after being a crossroads demon and the king of hell -- I will hurt someone.

OMG. This didn't even occur to me. And now I think that's where they are going.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 3:26:54 pm PST #27307 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm pretty firmly in Amy's camp on the topic.

I don't see evidence, and I don't see motivation. It doesn't fix anything, improve anything, or attractively complicate anything. And it's not exceedingly sad.

Also, there has to be a point at which they separate cleanly from Good Omens. Better sooner than later.

But, really, I don't know how you can get through, what? Three seasons with Lucifer and not mention the fallen angel right in the room (or get anything from his reactions). It would be an awkward retcon.

Oh--we saw Naomi fading in the white room. Any ideas? Because I got nothing. She'd have to be material to reprogram Cas with the pokey things, no?

It's always interesting following a new tumblr and learning their ways (and deciding if you're going to stay). I look at this [link] and wonder "Shouldn't you at least tag for Rule 63, if it's not deemed worthy of a warning?"

WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE?

That redoubles my motivation to get this stupid picture worked out, because there are at least implied penises. (Double of ..005 isn't much--I'm lacking in sticktoitiveness something awful)


Typo Boy - Jan 17, 2013 4:13:40 pm PST #27308 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also isn't it canon that Crowley was a tailor who sold his sould for a couple of added inches to his dick? And had had a human son who hated him?

Not saying that cannot be retconned, but that is some retconning. I don't get a vote, but I vote no anyway.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 4:23:16 pm PST #27309 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I went back through my files, and the most I could come up with was his ability to speak Enochian.


Amy - Jan 17, 2013 5:13:59 pm PST #27310 of 30002
Because books.

What is Rule 63?

I forgot about Naomi fading -- that was weird. But it's also not clear to me if Cas's scenes with her were a flashback or if she was pulling him up there for orders at the moments in question.

Yeah, Crowley was a tailor! And had a son! He better not be an angel somehow, is all I'm saying.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 5:23:08 pm PST #27311 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Forgoing the pithy punchy definitions, Rule 63=genderswap (did you see the hips on Cas? Girlfriend...oh, and the artist is pointedly bottom!Cas, to the point where they draw it as a mood aligner).

I found a window open to a story on LJ (the one where they get trapped in Ohio, and Cas pouts Dean into domesticity...::sigh::), and I notice that Mulder200's icon is an Artmetica Sterek picture.

Has D/C lost its biggest undiscriminating vanguard? That guy never saw a D/C story he wasn't first (inane) post on.


Amy - Jan 17, 2013 5:32:18 pm PST #27312 of 30002
Because books.

I couldn't figure out if the Cas in that picture was supposed to be a man or a woman, and I also didn't get why Samandriel was a baby. Or why Benny looked like a burglar.