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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 3:26:54 pm PST #27307 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm pretty firmly in Amy's camp on the topic.

I don't see evidence, and I don't see motivation. It doesn't fix anything, improve anything, or attractively complicate anything. And it's not exceedingly sad.

Also, there has to be a point at which they separate cleanly from Good Omens. Better sooner than later.

But, really, I don't know how you can get through, what? Three seasons with Lucifer and not mention the fallen angel right in the room (or get anything from his reactions). It would be an awkward retcon.

Oh--we saw Naomi fading in the white room. Any ideas? Because I got nothing. She'd have to be material to reprogram Cas with the pokey things, no?

It's always interesting following a new tumblr and learning their ways (and deciding if you're going to stay). I look at this [link] and wonder "Shouldn't you at least tag for Rule 63, if it's not deemed worthy of a warning?"

WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE?

That redoubles my motivation to get this stupid picture worked out, because there are at least implied penises. (Double of ..005 isn't much--I'm lacking in sticktoitiveness something awful)


Typo Boy - Jan 17, 2013 4:13:40 pm PST #27308 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also isn't it canon that Crowley was a tailor who sold his sould for a couple of added inches to his dick? And had had a human son who hated him?

Not saying that cannot be retconned, but that is some retconning. I don't get a vote, but I vote no anyway.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 4:23:16 pm PST #27309 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I went back through my files, and the most I could come up with was his ability to speak Enochian.


Amy - Jan 17, 2013 5:13:59 pm PST #27310 of 30002
Because books.

What is Rule 63?

I forgot about Naomi fading -- that was weird. But it's also not clear to me if Cas's scenes with her were a flashback or if she was pulling him up there for orders at the moments in question.

Yeah, Crowley was a tailor! And had a son! He better not be an angel somehow, is all I'm saying.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 5:23:08 pm PST #27311 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Forgoing the pithy punchy definitions, Rule 63=genderswap (did you see the hips on Cas? Girlfriend...oh, and the artist is pointedly bottom!Cas, to the point where they draw it as a mood aligner).

I found a window open to a story on LJ (the one where they get trapped in Ohio, and Cas pouts Dean into domesticity...::sigh::), and I notice that Mulder200's icon is an Artmetica Sterek picture.

Has D/C lost its biggest undiscriminating vanguard? That guy never saw a D/C story he wasn't first (inane) post on.


Amy - Jan 17, 2013 5:32:18 pm PST #27312 of 30002
Because books.

I couldn't figure out if the Cas in that picture was supposed to be a man or a woman, and I also didn't get why Samandriel was a baby. Or why Benny looked like a burglar.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2013 6:41:20 pm PST #27313 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She's still on probation. I'm not optimistic about her fanart, but I'm hoping she pulls through on the strength of reblogs.

There was a bit last night where only one tumblr on my dash was posting SPN stuff. I don't want to be that isolated again...

But that pic was a fixit curtain where Cas only pretended to kill Samandriel (and hid his grace) everyone likes Benny too? Something.

She doesn't talk about Sam much.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 17, 2013 7:01:55 pm PST #27314 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh--we saw Naomi fading in the white room. Any ideas? Because I got nothing. She'd have to be material to reprogram Cas with the pokey things, no?

I'm not entirely sure that what we're seeing in the White Room is literal and physical rather than some symbolic/metaphorical exchange between Cas and Naomi. Would she even have or need a vessel in Heaven?

I am not fond of Crowley being able to capture an angel and negate its powers. It was a holy shit moment when Mother-of-All revealed she knew how to do it, repetitive when the Leviathans could as well, and downright ridiculous when minor stakeable pagan gods and demons that should comparatively be like insects can do so with a bit of spraypaint. I am also not fond of said captive angel being revealed to be more vulnerable to torture of its vessel with material implements than a demon would be. Remember when Castiel first appeared and was able to shrug off Ruby's demon-killing knife like it was a plastic spork?


Amy - Jan 18, 2013 7:04:50 am PST #27315 of 30002
Because books.

Producer preview for next week: [link]


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2013 8:39:24 am PST #27316 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My assumption is that there's magic involved in the torture, and once that can gets opened, what we saw seems perfectly legit to me. It's not like Crowley can negate angelic powers just by hanging around, like Eve could. He can shield a location from angels, but that's old hat--shielding's at least S6. Leviathans can't negate powers, but they can kill angels--that's different. They'd have gotten clean away with it if they could have hidden from Cas at the end of last season--that's how TFW found the real Dick.

Crowley speaks Enochian. He spent a year plotting with an angel. This is the Crowley I like, with fingers everywhere. I still hope he gets killed and off the show sometime this year, but he's less laughable than he was a couple seasons ago. Hell, all the way back to S5.