But as well as doing the job that needs doing, Garth is aping Bobby, and poorly, and that shit is creepy.

I'm going on vague memory here so I might be wrong but wasn't Garth introduced and then he started modeling himself as a hunter after Dean after their interactions? He doesn't seem to have a strong personality on his own. I see it as a creepy sign of respect. Someone should be doing the job that Bobby did for the community. Garth is trying. Unfortunately his version of trying is a little SWF but that doesn't feel new to me.

I know if I were in bed with him, I'd be curious about a it.

It's not all that different from things you see all around. It's a tattoo in a common tattoo location on men. Unless it's ringed in Latin or something I am not recalling.

Apparently today is the day I wish to post but not go back and check my facts first.

wasn't Garth introduced and then he started modeling himself as a hunter after Dean after their interactions?

Nope. This episode was the most we've found out about how he got into the game. Dean just called him a hunter he'd worked with.

And if a creepy thing is a sign of respect, I'd still yell about the creepy, because we're all grownups here, and we should know how to act like our own people. It kind of undercuts his whole "I have no manpain!" thing if he also has no personality to call his own.

Asking one night stands about tattoos--I can totally see that not happening.

Okay--apparently Big Bang Theory did this: [link] ? I still don't like the show though.

And apparently we need to know this [link] about next week (no spoiler).

I'm trying to work out my response to Misha repeatedly saying that S8 is when we find out Dean's a bottom.

Nope. This episode was the most we've found out about how he got into the game. Dean just called him a hunter he'd worked with.

After the one-off mention from Bobby about Garth, we really meet him in Season Seven Time for a Wedding and since I hated that ep, I don't remember a lot of it but wikis helped remind me. But I sort of thought he had baby duckling imprinted on Dean when we meet him again in Party On, Garth. I mean not well since his car isn't as cool, music isn't as cool, EMF detector doesn't work and he gets hammered off half of a beer but I thought he was aspiring to be like Dean. It was a little creepy when I thought he transferred that into being like Bobby but he was more a blank slate to me than actual canon actually implies. Like noodles, you can flavor them with most anything.

He killed the tooth fairy and became a hunter before he met Dean. I don't know if it's nicer to think of him imprinting on Dean, but--was he a blank slate until he met Dean, or did he replace someone with Dean's persona?

I feel pretty comfortable thinking we saw many of the important parts of Bobby's life, but I've been assuming that people like Garth or the foxhole hottie have whole non-Winchester existences.

That Big Bang reference is awesome. I hadn't seen that.

I didn't get a creepy vibe off Garth at all. A lot of people model themselves on others, especially people they respect or admire. It's not necessarily the most mature behavior, but I think it was well-intentioned. He's trying to provide something familiar to people who are grieving, and I think he knows that Dean and Sam are probably the hardest hit.

I don't believe there's a dark or corruptible bone in Garth's (very slender) body. But wearing the clothes and aping the speech patterns of the deceased isn't healthy, uh, self-actualised behaviour. If Sam or Dean did that, we'd think it way strange, no? Dean holding onto the flask was bad enough. But providing something familiar by using (weirdly) the same swear words a year after someone's death? I might try and loosen their grasp on "other" a bit. It's been a year. And either he didn't hang out with Bobby enough to know how he used it, or he's that blind to subtleties, both of which would make me itch especially if it was my father they were badly reproducing.

If it were real life, it would be creepy. But for the short-handing purposes of one episode of TV? I got the idea and that was about it.

I'm trying to work out my response to Misha repeatedly saying that S8 is when we find out Dean's a bottom.

This is a surprise? :)

But for the short-handing purposes of one episode of TV? I got the idea and that was about it.

Well, I guess that's the risk. I didn't get the idea that Dean was the one with an attachment disorder--Garth looked like the OTT one to me there. I do think there was a middle ground of doing Bobby's job (totally fair) instead of acting like a crazy person.

But I get the impression people like Garth more than I do. I find him kinda exhausting. It's great you don't have to be fit or agile or book smart or people smart to be a hunter, but way to deflate the gig, guys.