And there's also the question ficwriters seem to be juggling--if they're attacked in Purgatory and they slice off a vampire's head--what happens to the vampire? Does it Die die? Or disappear for a couple secs? Or not much at all? Since it's already where it goes.
Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.
Jayne ,'The Message'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Jul 28, 2012 7:07:23 am PDT #26009 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
§ ita § - Jul 28, 2012 7:27:15 am PDT #26010 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Ugh. I just read a D/C with Daphne in it that made me feel quite dirty. It was pretty much an anti-Daphne story, dressed up as getting inside Daphne's head--her commenters seem to be reacting like we're getting her side of the story in a good way, instead of it making her look like an unsympathetic harridan. Basically it's Daphne realising she was silly to think this man could ever have loved her, he was really meant for Dean. I'm sure it's like many stories were written about Lisa a year or so earlier.
The author, though--she's clearly spellchecked, which is good, but she can't spell, which is bad. brakes are breaks, but best of all, more often than not, beer is bear.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 28, 2012 10:52:25 am PDT #26011 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Castiel referred to the monster souls preying on each other forever, so since all the ones ever created seemed to still be there when he first opened the gate I assume "death" is merely a temporary inconvenience to them at best. No idea though if they slowly reassemble themselves, recover instantly from any harm, or pop up whole somewhere else to start over like chracters in a videogame.
Amy - Jul 28, 2012 10:57:21 am PDT #26012 of 30002
Because books.
Dean's torture in hell was endless. Every time Alastair ripped him to shreds, he found himself reassembled in the morning for the next round. I assume the same would be true in purgatory, although I'm not sure how that makes it much different from hell.
Juliebird - Jul 28, 2012 12:15:27 pm PDT #26013 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I assume the same would be true in purgatory
I agree with this.
But will the same be true for non-dead, body-having Dean and Cas? If Cas' vessel is disassembled, will his celestial wavelength self survive? It's not like they have angel-swords down there.
§ ita § - Jul 28, 2012 12:42:41 pm PDT #26014 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Does Cas have an angel sword down there? What does kill a human down there? I mean, if you're assuming he doesn't eat, then hunger doesn't kill him, why would stabbing him in the heart do it?
Juliebird - Jul 28, 2012 1:04:14 pm PDT #26015 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Yeah, Cas would have his sword. I've always assumed that they were manifested when needed (so would they then go poof once that angel gets killed?) so it's not something he would misplace or leave behind.
if you're assuming he doesn't eat, then hunger doesn't kill him, why would stabbing him in the heart do it?
Excellent point.
Yay, Dean gets to die repeatedly! Again!
Amy - Jul 28, 2012 1:34:52 pm PDT #26016 of 30002
Because books.
The only difference I can see is that Dean *isn't* dead this time, not like when he went to hell. At least that's the way I interpreted it. So maybe he would get hungry.
When Sam went to hell, I assumed the fall into the pit killed him.
§ ita § - Jul 28, 2012 1:44:46 pm PDT #26017 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, we don't know how he landed. I didn't think of him falling and dying. I just thought he "ended up" in the Cage, with all the precision that fails to convey.
Amy - Jul 28, 2012 1:49:29 pm PDT #26018 of 30002
Because books.
I thought a fall like that would stop your heart long before you landed. I guess I'm also assuming, though, that it's not a literal drop from Stull into an actual pit. I thought heaven and hell were closer to another dimension than a tangible place you could get to.