I Hate You, Jared Padalecki. (Not really.)
Jared's response. Heh.
Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.
Buffy ,'Sleeper'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Amy - Jun 09, 2012 5:32:52 am PDT #25461 of 30002
Because books.
sumi - Jun 09, 2012 10:59:10 am PDT #25462 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!
Ha! Amy, that was beautiful.
§ ita § - Jun 09, 2012 11:12:59 am PDT #25463 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Does Dean describe himself as atheist at any point? I mean, with that precise word?
Amy - Jun 09, 2012 12:49:55 pm PDT #25464 of 30002
Because books.
Not specifically with that word, as far as I know.
Typo Boy - Jun 09, 2012 12:56:56 pm PDT #25465 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
At this point is there any chance Dean is an atheist, rather than thinking God is a dick?
§ ita § - Jun 09, 2012 1:21:36 pm PDT #25466 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Someone on IO9 is saying that if Dean fought demons (and vampires and shapeshifters--but that makes no sense) he can't be atheist.
I said that by S2 demons are still new to him, and he does believe in gods, but he doesn't attribute divinity to any of the "gods", just superpowers.
S4, he accepts that there is a Christian god, so I guess he can't be atheist anymore, but he's certainly not a worshipper. He just concedes his existence.
Juliebird - Jun 09, 2012 1:27:11 pm PDT #25467 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
And that's not a new concept: believing in God but not having faith in Him, doubting His intentions or reliability or interest. After I gave up on the church and religion, I never gave up on the idea of something out there, but never thought that it was benevolent or invested in my well-being.
§ ita § - Jun 09, 2012 1:38:40 pm PDT #25468 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The person is saying that Show doesn't understand what atheism means. But I just can't remember Dean calling himself an atheist.
Juliebird - Jun 09, 2012 1:43:58 pm PDT #25469 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
In my memory, Dean never said that word. I do remember him being dubious in that fake angel ep, and again when confronted with what Castiel said he was. Or, maybe not dubious, but adamant about their lack of existence, which I guess would mean atheist in a Catholic/Protestant sense.
§ ita § - Jun 09, 2012 1:47:30 pm PDT #25470 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I mean, seems clear he knows gods exist, he just didn't believe the Judeo Christian one existed. Is that an atheist position? And he doesn't seem to think the gods whose existence he knows of have anything special about them that separates them from a vampire, et al.