Mal: Well, you were right about this being a bad idea. Zoe: Thanks for sayin', sir.

'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2012 4:08:18 pm PDT #24830 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fans? Reality? Methinks you ask too much.

I'm sad to see them down a woman of great influence in the writers room. I hope it's not too much to ask that they acquire some more down the road.

Someone just called 'Mystery Spot' one of the funny episodes. I need to learn how to let that go. They played bits of it as slapstick, and people laughed. But I just found it so overwhelmingly tragic that I get defensive for the boys.

It doesn't help that she's slamming Ben Edlund as being ridiculous at the same time, I suppose.


Amy - Apr 04, 2012 4:15:19 pm PDT #24831 of 30002
Because books.

When I hear "Mystery Spot," I always think of the funny first, just for the visuals. Also, I think, because I was astonished when the episode turned halfway through into the giant angstfest with scary obsessed!Sam.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2012 4:41:55 pm PDT #24832 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I seriously never found it funny, although I get that Dean died in shockingly slapsticky ways. I just kept feeling bad for Sam. I was kind of surprised to find out people had been laughing.

Guy who posted the news about Sera on IO9 called her a mook. I don't really know what a mook is, but he's taken it back, and replaced it by saying he hasn't liked the last two seasons, which is totally reasonable.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 04, 2012 4:44:51 pm PDT #24833 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hm, I'm ambivalent about the news. I think it's good for SPN, but potentially bad for Being Human.


sumi - Apr 04, 2012 5:27:42 pm PDT #24834 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Well, he has some sort of role in producing Being Human (and his wife is the new showrunner.)


Marcia - Apr 04, 2012 5:27:44 pm PDT #24835 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I'm rather jazzed that Jeremy Carver is coming back as co-showrunner. I like Sera and I'll miss her stories, but Jeremy is pretty awesome and I missed his when he went to produce Being Human.


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 9:28:58 am PDT #24836 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I was surfing tumblr (as is my wont) and I saw this reblogged:

What aggravates me is when canons deliberately queer-bait, flirting with homoerotic tension and then laughing about it and going, “No homo!”; when they ruthlessly exploit the popularity factor of slashiness without ever allowing their central ~BROTP~ to really, actually, just for once, be textually gay - and when fandom lauds that as progressive and queer-friendly.

and the person whose blog I was on had tagged it, amongst other things "#I'm looking at you Supernatural! ".

Do you think that's fair? Do you think Show yells "Psych!" and takes a step back from having done something with gay overtones? I don't think that's fair. I think fandom spends a lot of time reading gay overtones into the text, and that when show *does* put the overtones in, they don't yell "no homo!" and undo it, they just change topic. They don't step back, they just turn right or left.


Marcia - Apr 06, 2012 11:56:46 am PDT #24837 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I'm a raging m/m slash fan in other fandoms, and I get its appeal. My slash bell doesn't peal for SPN, so I have no horse in the Destiel/Wincest race. I don't read homoeroticism in Show, but if others do, I'm a live-and-let-live kind of gal.

Show has "winked" and "nudged" at slash fandom with the occasional gay comment, but I don't read that as deliberate baiting and walking it back. I think it's a friendly nod to slash fans, but a few tinfoil hat fans aren't in the mood to be toyed with. So, no, I don't think it a fair assessment. I think someone's bitter that Show won't take things where she wants it to go.


Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 2:18:24 pm PDT #24838 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I'm trying to parse out the meaning of "BROTP" .... I'm guessing TP stands for True Pairing. What's the BRO part? Or is this a wincest fan complaining? (As in Brother True Pairing?)


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 2:49:05 pm PDT #24839 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's bro + OTP. Akin to bromance and the rest.