I'm trying to parse out the meaning of "BROTP" .... I'm guessing TP stands for True Pairing. What's the BRO part? Or is this a wincest fan complaining? (As in Brother True Pairing?)
You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.
Willow ,'Empty Places'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 2:18:24 pm PDT #24838 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 2:49:05 pm PDT #24839 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's bro + OTP. Akin to bromance and the rest.
Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 3:08:36 pm PDT #24840 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Okay, that makes sense to me. The complaint that a show would hint at the central bromantic pair being gay, but back away from it when it comes down to the payoff. Not so much when it comes to Supernatural though.
Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 4:03:23 pm PDT #24841 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Oh yeah, I remember this! It's the "you're not wearing a seatbelt, so why don't you just slide out from under the damned helmet?" scene.
Juliebird - Apr 06, 2012 4:10:14 pm PDT #24842 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I don't see any "psych!" going on in Show, especially in regards to the actual brothers, let alone the Dean/Cas bromance.
§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 6:17:50 pm PDT #24843 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The show definitely doesn't imply anything between Sam and Dean, so it's not taking anything back. And it's just saying "feelings" between Dean and Castiel, and hasn't actually teased anything non-platonic that they'd need to retract. They have a profound bond. You are welcome to take that as you wish, but they're not cheating on it afterwards.
I didn't pay as much attention to Shut Up, Dr. Phil the first time round as I had to any of the other episodes, I think, for some reason. And now that I've rewatched (reflexively I was going to wait until 9-whuhuh?) I don't get a lot of it. Like, WHY ARE THEY STILL ALIVE? A lot of people died, and Sam and Dean let them both walk? On the flip side, they can neutralise Leviathans, and Sam and Dean aren't working with them? They should be on one side or the other, shouldn't they?
I don't get that. I wish the show had Sam and Dean take a clearer stance on witches. I know they're human, but don't have them as villains if you're not going to have them punished in any way. It's frustrating, dammit.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 06, 2012 7:16:42 pm PDT #24844 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Do you think that's fair? Do you think Show yells "Psych!" and takes a step back from having done something with gay overtones?
I think it does sometimes with interaction between Dean and Cas, but it strikes me as being done in a spirit of fun rather than Lucy yanking the football away from Charlie Brown. And it seems to me the show has pretty seriously and respectfully set up a dynamic of Cas being in love with Dean in unrequited fashion, even if it doesn't necessarily include a sexual component.
Juliebird - Apr 07, 2012 1:24:15 am PDT #24845 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
In that instance, Matt, I think that it doesn't fit the second criteria of the show shouting "no homo!" (and how I hate that phrase).
I'm also still not getting the "shame on you, fans" where we supposedly call it progressive.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 07, 2012 4:25:46 am PDT #24846 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Dean seemed to get a bit sensitive about it toward the end of Season 6, but it wasn't obviously gay panic rather than "OMG, the friend I've been jokingly flirting with is actually in love with me!" There didn't seem to be any condemnation as far as I can tell.
Juliebird - Apr 07, 2012 4:41:28 am PDT #24847 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
"Cas, get out of my ass!"
Honestly, what little I see in the show seems to be the writers responding to fans inferences and playing it up, either as a fanservice or a whack on the head. Though someone on the show has to bear the brunt of responsibility for making the D/C so easy. I'll blame (thank) Misha.
(I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore).