Take me, sir. Take me hard.

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 04, 2012 4:44:51 pm PDT #24833 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hm, I'm ambivalent about the news. I think it's good for SPN, but potentially bad for Being Human.


sumi - Apr 04, 2012 5:27:42 pm PDT #24834 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Well, he has some sort of role in producing Being Human (and his wife is the new showrunner.)


Marcia - Apr 04, 2012 5:27:44 pm PDT #24835 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I'm rather jazzed that Jeremy Carver is coming back as co-showrunner. I like Sera and I'll miss her stories, but Jeremy is pretty awesome and I missed his when he went to produce Being Human.


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 9:28:58 am PDT #24836 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I was surfing tumblr (as is my wont) and I saw this reblogged:

What aggravates me is when canons deliberately queer-bait, flirting with homoerotic tension and then laughing about it and going, “No homo!”; when they ruthlessly exploit the popularity factor of slashiness without ever allowing their central ~BROTP~ to really, actually, just for once, be textually gay - and when fandom lauds that as progressive and queer-friendly.

and the person whose blog I was on had tagged it, amongst other things "#I'm looking at you Supernatural! ".

Do you think that's fair? Do you think Show yells "Psych!" and takes a step back from having done something with gay overtones? I don't think that's fair. I think fandom spends a lot of time reading gay overtones into the text, and that when show *does* put the overtones in, they don't yell "no homo!" and undo it, they just change topic. They don't step back, they just turn right or left.


Marcia - Apr 06, 2012 11:56:46 am PDT #24837 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I'm a raging m/m slash fan in other fandoms, and I get its appeal. My slash bell doesn't peal for SPN, so I have no horse in the Destiel/Wincest race. I don't read homoeroticism in Show, but if others do, I'm a live-and-let-live kind of gal.

Show has "winked" and "nudged" at slash fandom with the occasional gay comment, but I don't read that as deliberate baiting and walking it back. I think it's a friendly nod to slash fans, but a few tinfoil hat fans aren't in the mood to be toyed with. So, no, I don't think it a fair assessment. I think someone's bitter that Show won't take things where she wants it to go.


Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 2:18:24 pm PDT #24838 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I'm trying to parse out the meaning of "BROTP" .... I'm guessing TP stands for True Pairing. What's the BRO part? Or is this a wincest fan complaining? (As in Brother True Pairing?)


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2012 2:49:05 pm PDT #24839 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's bro + OTP. Akin to bromance and the rest.


Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 3:08:36 pm PDT #24840 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Okay, that makes sense to me. The complaint that a show would hint at the central bromantic pair being gay, but back away from it when it comes down to the payoff. Not so much when it comes to Supernatural though.


Morgana - Apr 06, 2012 4:03:23 pm PDT #24841 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Oh yeah, I remember this! It's the "you're not wearing a seatbelt, so why don't you just slide out from under the damned helmet?" scene.


Juliebird - Apr 06, 2012 4:10:14 pm PDT #24842 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I don't see any "psych!" going on in Show, especially in regards to the actual brothers, let alone the Dean/Cas bromance.