None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 2:57:55 pm PDT #24567 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which reminds me I shoudl work on the episode recaps

Yes you should! I haven't had a chance to look back at that in a while. I need to get back on that too.


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 3:00:28 pm PDT #24568 of 30002
Because books.

I'm not posting them, Typo, it was a document ita created. Because ... we're obsessive. And they're not really recaps, more like one or two line summaries.

JEsus, it took me way too long to type that.


Typo Boy - Mar 19, 2012 3:23:09 pm PDT #24569 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sorry. Carry on.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 4:06:43 pm PDT #24570 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oy, people.

"I would also imagine that Jared and Jensen are a bit tired of these roles"

"No, that's not what they say"

"Well, of course they'd come back if offered the right package"

"NO THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY SAY"

Why can't you just leave it at that? That interviews and con appearances contradict you? Actors "need" this, Jensen and Jared "are" that. Enh, all we know is what they say. That's all. *You* are the one that's tired of the show. And you're uber-projecting.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 5:20:16 pm PDT #24571 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some people on IO9 are suggesting that the cancer George mentioned was metaphorical (referring to humans), and others are saying that they need to cure cancer because they can't eat cancerous people (and someone suggested Frank has cancer, so he'll be okay). So far only one person has suggested that Dick wants to cure cancer because it will make him look good and then he can be president.

Any opinions?

I'm honestly flummoxed. A little disturbed by the idea that cancer might be the key to defeating them, but I really don't want a big cancer plotline right now. I'm in a delicate headspace.


sumi - Mar 19, 2012 5:21:35 pm PDT #24572 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I really thought that Dick may have told underlings one thing but who knows what he is really up to.


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 5:25:23 pm PDT #24573 of 30002
Because books.

I don't really think they're curing cancer, even for their own benefit.

I also don't think the writers would set up that plotline -- cancer isn't a joke, and having murderous, oil slick creatures curing it when scientists have been trying for years? Not funny, but also not good horror.

So far only one person has suggested that Dick wants to cure cancer because it will make him look good and then he can be president.

I guess I could kind of see this, but I hope they don't do that.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2012 5:45:18 pm PDT #24574 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it can be effective horror. I've read cancer-fixated stories that worked well. Octavia Butler's brilliant Xenogenesis stories had cancer-obsessed aliens, if memory serves. It was something about the human potential for cancer that fascinated the aliens, and that's why they wanted to breed with us.

The reasons I don't want to see it are entirely personal. I do think it can be done well.

I don't think we'd have been given a mislead at this point, though, sumi--it's too late, and it's too random, and I do think that whatever they want, it's not like what we've been trained to expect, because of the 30 year thing. So curing disease fits with that.

The question is--is it curing disease in the To Serve Man fashion, or is it some sort of perverted do-gooding, like they'll also fix the energy crisis, etc? I mean, they're clearly doing everything everywhere, and this is the first time we've seen monsters play with human toys. They're not looking for mystical weapons or spells or opening portals or doing anything supernatural. They're playing the human game, and they're playing it better than humans do.

That's why something like disease makes sense to me. It still very mundane.


Amy - Mar 19, 2012 5:52:36 pm PDT #24575 of 30002
Because books.

I'd have to see it played out, I guess. I took as George fucking with them, or what sumi suggested -- repeating what Dick had told them. I've never seen it done, and it doesn't sound promising to me, but that's just me.


Juliebird - Mar 19, 2012 5:58:51 pm PDT #24576 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'd almost prefer it to be cancer in the Matrix way of "Humans are a disease, and we are the cure" but then they'd have nothing left to eat.

And if they're taking over the globe that fast and invasive, that was a fuckton of Leviathans inside Cas. What's the occupancy of the Chrysler building? Can they breed?