Dean is definitely my favourite--I empathise with him the most, and he's way more my kinda guy than Sam is. However, as the classifications go, DeanGirl has baggage that I don't want to carry. And if I talk about Dean more than Sam, or Jensen more than Jared, apparently people see a kindred spirit. But I'm BiBro by their estimation, or Team Free Will in comparison.
By *my* estimation of being on either brother's team, you gotta really like the other brother. Because your brother does, you know?
Those people who think Sam was right to leave for Stanford and should have stayed away, because Dean just doesn't get him, and it's all DeanDeanDean, or those that think Sam was wrong to abandon Dean, or that Dean and Cas should go off hunting together and leave Sam to finish his esteemed law degree--I'm not in the camps of any of those people.
Thirded. Bi-brotheral all the way.
Sort of a different camp. Not a Sam girl or a Dean girl. Like both, but not strongly enough to be classified that way. Not really bi-brotheral either. I enjoy the show, and you know am friendly towards them without being even an imaginary friend.
I do have one question on Morgana's political point. (Just to make my own position - Independent, don't like either party, but consider Democrats lesser evil.) Morgana, can you name an example where the Republican and Democratic parties disagree and the Republicans are right and the Democrats are wrong? Not a position by fringe players, but a majority of Republicans in Congress or a Majority of republicans in the Senate, or a non-fringe Republican presidential candidate. (Ron Paul definitely being fringe in the sense that he does not represent a majority of national Republican elected officials and never had a chance at the nomination. Kucinich also being fringe among the Congress.)
can you name an example where the Republican and Democratic parties disagree and the Republicans are right and the Democrats are wrong?
Seriously? Here? I know topic isn't a big deal here, but...oy.
Well, we did label them SamGirls and DeanGirls, so technically we could stretch to the topic. I'm not interested in discussing it but calling Newt Gingrich a DeanGirl does make me giddy with joy.
Why don't we discuss things SamGirls might be right about and DeanGirls are wrong (or vice versa), but I feel like we're on the brink of at best a potentially charged political discussion, at worst, Republican bashing,
Ok, but I note that when Morgana made the comparison, no one suggested there was anything charged about it. I mean the thing about the comparison is that the party positions on issues are not purely adhoc. Maybe both parties are equally right and equally wrong and the perfect position is to split them down the middle to find the position that is just right. But I kind of think it has to be proven if asserted, and not taken for granted. Alternatively if discussing the truth value of the comparison is too fraught, then maybe making the comparison is too fraught. Cause if it is OK to say, but not Ok to argue against then....
But Morgana was just using political parties casually, as an example. At least that's the way I read it. She wasn't discussing their politics at all. It was a point about fandom, not politics.
Oh my God, I just realized that the Republicans and the Democrats are DeanGirls and SamGirls (although I'm not sure I can parse that far enough to delineate which party belongs to which brother). It doesn't matter what Obama does, the Republicans immediately cry foul and tell everyone why it was wrong and how wrong it was and and how they could do it so much better. Whatever the Republicans suggest, the Democrats sneer at and immediately reject and turn their backs in a huff.
Sonds like a point about politics to me. And, I think the last sentence quoted is provably untrue. Heck the payroll tax cut was a Republican idea, accepted by the Democrats. Thing is, I have to get this from David Broder and Thomas Friedman and the whole bevy of "centrist" columnists. I don't want to have to just put up with unanswered on this board as well. KInd of centrist privilege, bashing of anyone not a "moderate", just casually in passing without even thinking about it.
