I realize I am in the vast minority here, and that vanishing few other people share my preference. Which is why I mostly let others carry the conversation to their preference and interests.

Bev, the above is what I was responding to. Talking about "the vanishing few" makes it sound like no one else shares your preferences, and I don't think that's true. I also think if you want to talk about the kind of relationships you like, you have to start those conversations.

You certainly don't have to apologize for not joining conversations you have no interest in. I certainly don't.

Jared and Gen Halloween

Ohmygoshsocute! And I know it's totally inappropriate but I had to go "AWW" when I saw her tummy.

To me, fic and show are often very different things.

Stephanie is me. What I can read and what I could watch on SHOW are different things for me.

BOYS love each other! In a totally non sexytiems way. I want to smish them.

What I can read and what I could watch on SHOW are different things for me.

This. Very much this. There are things I love to see explored in fic that I would not ever want to see on the show. For example, Gabriel returning is something I'd prefer to see in fic vs. canon (barring flashbacks).

One thing I would love to see more of (in both fic and show) is some riffing on the idea that aside from Sam, Castiel is probably the only close friend Dean has ever had. Is there such a thing as gen-shipping?

Amy, in general, I find very few people share my particular subset of interests, in whichever fandom. With the possible exception of Who and Sherlock--but people are people, and the instinct seems toward couplehood. Or possibly thriplehood. In any event, sex. Which, you know, I'm not opposed to, it's just recently become increasingly evident to me that it's not the sex in any relationship that's most important to me, it's the relationship between the characters. And that, you have to admit, is not the norm. It certainly seems nowhere near even a registerable percentage of any popular fandom. Finding fic or discussion, or fostering and maintaining discussion when the majority are interested in sex, is difficult. And usually more effort than I like to expend because I'm lazy. My comment was meant as an observation on my own proclivities, and not a complaint. I apologize if it sounded complainy.

Also, I think most people like fic and tv and discussion of both as diversion and fun. And I am a ponderous and sober beast and think too hard, laugh too little, am too earnest and have not enough humor. I am not fun.

Dudes, I'm way introspective and it's spilling all over the thread so I'ma shut up now. Howza 'bout them leviathans, huh?

Is there such a thing as gen-shipping?

There should be for this show. I support it!

They were just starting to be bros! (Bros, not brothers.) Come back, Cas!

I say, talk about what you want to about Show and Show-related topics, and if there's interest, then there's discussion. And it's all part of the regularly scheduled channel.

I am certainly one who has gotten to being tired of fics that climax on a climax (especially since that means that the story is all about the contrived misunderstandings keeping the destined lovers apart, and not a story with plot in which a romance happens to be taking place). And I hope to get back to my Sherlockian asexual fic once Show is on hiatus (DCBB is over and I'm mostly caught up).

Bev, I think what pinged me about your comment was the implied framing of "this comment doesn't belong in the regular discussions here, sorry to bother". Don't be sorry.

And I prefer my fic to be far away from Show. 1) I don't want to relive the pain of the demons and the deals, and 2) I need to be able to separate canon and fanon easily, and sticking to close to canon, or reinventing it while sticking closely to it, messes with my head.

Since I developed my SPN obsession, this is always the thread I read first. I even enjoy posts about fics I know I won't ever read because I love the characters.

Oh, god, for a moment there I thought it was Friday. Fuck. That's a downer.

Yeah, that happened to me today in Boxed Set about Fringe Sucks, doesn't it?