They were just starting to be bros! (Bros, not brothers.) Come back, Cas!

I say, talk about what you want to about Show and Show-related topics, and if there's interest, then there's discussion. And it's all part of the regularly scheduled channel.

I am certainly one who has gotten to being tired of fics that climax on a climax (especially since that means that the story is all about the contrived misunderstandings keeping the destined lovers apart, and not a story with plot in which a romance happens to be taking place). And I hope to get back to my Sherlockian asexual fic once Show is on hiatus (DCBB is over and I'm mostly caught up).

Bev, I think what pinged me about your comment was the implied framing of "this comment doesn't belong in the regular discussions here, sorry to bother". Don't be sorry.

And I prefer my fic to be far away from Show. 1) I don't want to relive the pain of the demons and the deals, and 2) I need to be able to separate canon and fanon easily, and sticking to close to canon, or reinventing it while sticking closely to it, messes with my head.

Since I developed my SPN obsession, this is always the thread I read first. I even enjoy posts about fics I know I won't ever read because I love the characters.

Oh, god, for a moment there I thought it was Friday. Fuck. That's a downer.

Yeah, that happened to me today in Boxed Set about Fringe Sucks, doesn't it?

Dammit. I'd blame you, but then I already read you realising you were wrong, so I'm extra dumb. Sheeit.

I may be a Bad Fan, but I know what day it is. ::preens::

you know...Bev's comment got me thinking. SPN is one of few shows i'm fannish about where i don't ship anyone. that's incredibly rare for me!

Amy, in general, I find very few people share my particular subset of interests, in whichever fandom. With the possible exception of Who and Sherlock--but people are people, and the instinct seems toward couplehood. Or possibly thriplehood. In any event, sex. Which, you know, I'm not opposed to, it's just recently become increasingly evident to me that it's not the sex in any relationship that's most important to me, it's the relationship between the characters.

I guess I don't see them as mutually exclusive, but when I'm not reading shameless OTP stuff I don't admit to, I strongly prefer stories that explore the relationships between characters in all their messiness and glory, be they sexual or non. I know I can count on one hand the number of explicitly Ace Sherlock fics that have worked for me as character explanation (and of them, only one where it isn't demi/grey A), because most of them are basically old-school Smarmfic and DON'T explore the rough edges and communication. (Who stuff is just contradicted by canon. The Doctor stated, well aware of that innuendo, that he dances. For starters.)

I want to read about (and, honestly, watch) stories where people who have strong bonds don't always get along, or drive each other up the wall, or have screaming fits at 2am that dissolve into helpless laughter. Parent and child, sibling, lover, partner. Gimme the realism, emotionally, and I'm there with bells on.

It's conversations like these that have me sighing in defeat that I'll have to write a straight ace remix of my GrAce fic (I groan at my own pun) just because I can't land solidly down on one side or the other (still!). They're both solid. One one hand, I get pron, on the other, I get a solid Ace fic and that appeals to me in all it's otherness and newness. The one thing I can be proud of, despite my shite writing skills, is that the story goes on with or without the sex, and the relationship takes it's course with or without the sex. It's a potential element, not the conclusion.