Um. I had a discussion about this recently with somebody, and it's re-clarified and reemphasized for me that I find relationships between characters more interesting if there's no sex. It seems like the point of 99% of fic is to get somebody in bed--or up against a wall, or whatever. Personally I find Sherlockian intimacy far more intricate and fascinating than aforesaid sexytiems. I realize I am in the vast minority here, and that vanishing few other people share my preference. Which is why I mostly let others carry the conversation to their preference and interests.

Bev, you can talk about the show and the characters and their non-sexual interactions all you want. No one's stopping you. In fact, I think a lot of people would join you, if you started conversations like that.

And I think you're disregarding a lot of conversation in here about Dean's drinking, for instance, or his guilt issues, or where Sam's head is now, and speculation about their childhood, among a dozen other non-sexual points of interest on the show. We're not *only* talking about sex.

While I enjoy the ideas of Dean, Sam, and Cas in various entanglements, I personally love the relationship between Sam and Dean the most. It's what makes the show unique and fascinating to me.

To me, fic and show are often very different things. W

Jared and Gen Halloween - a friend sent me this picture. Most amusing is that her little boy had the very same costume.

I'm sorry...was I talking about sex? I hadn't realised. It's shocking, shocking, I tell you, how these things can sneak up on you.

In the spring - SPN comes back January 6th.

I don't know what the final new episode is though.

Dude, that was not a "quit it!" It was an explanation of why I don't join in. Everybody gets to talk about what they want to, I like that part. I just feel bad sometimes because I'm not contributing to a discussion, that's all.

I forget how to talk to the other humans, apparently.

I realize I am in the vast minority here, and that vanishing few other people share my preference. Which is why I mostly let others carry the conversation to their preference and interests.

Bev, the above is what I was responding to. Talking about "the vanishing few" makes it sound like no one else shares your preferences, and I don't think that's true. I also think if you want to talk about the kind of relationships you like, you have to start those conversations.

You certainly don't have to apologize for not joining conversations you have no interest in. I certainly don't.

Jared and Gen Halloween

Ohmygoshsocute! And I know it's totally inappropriate but I had to go "AWW" when I saw her tummy.

To me, fic and show are often very different things.

Stephanie is me. What I can read and what I could watch on SHOW are different things for me.

BOYS love each other! In a totally non sexytiems way. I want to smish them.

What I can read and what I could watch on SHOW are different things for me.

This. Very much this. There are things I love to see explored in fic that I would not ever want to see on the show. For example, Gabriel returning is something I'd prefer to see in fic vs. canon (barring flashbacks).

One thing I would love to see more of (in both fic and show) is some riffing on the idea that aside from Sam, Castiel is probably the only close friend Dean has ever had. Is there such a thing as gen-shipping?