I've been pingponging between Dirty Dancing and Dan in Real Life and But I'm a Cheerleader for the past few weeks on fanfiction.net before s/he started updating on deancastiel

Yeah, I've been camping on her FFNET page too. I'm glad she's prolific. She hits a spot, and she writes lots of variation into her AUs. Not brilliant, but satisfying.

I dunno, Morgana, I think that the show clearly shows that Lisa being in the know did absolutely nothing to protect her from the boogeyman. Not to say it wasn't ultimately selfish from an objective standpoint, or that it can't be both heartbreakingly selfless and selfish at the same time. Because Dean still let himself be the bad guy in Lisa's eyes. It's not like he was running away from all culpability. He made a point of letting Lisa know him, and know as the dude who hurt her. But, yes, he did take her choices away from her. But I still come away with a whole lot of hurty.

She hits a spot

Yeah.

Obstinatrix is another that I get a little excited about when I see a new post. There was one love-slave fic she did that went to a wincest place that was absolutely filthy hot, but afterwards I was horrified by the physical and mind-rape of it. I'm still not able to really stomach "Cas is a god and makes Dean/the boys service him".

I'm still not able to really stomach "Cas is a god and makes Dean/the boys service him".

I'm good as long as there's no brother touchy touchy. Dean taking one for the team is quite attractive to me, especially if there's an overtone of "I'd have slept with you anyway, so will you behave?" That's a level of dub-con (the mythical hypothetical dub-con, never seen in the wild) that I can dig.

But obstinatrix can sure write porn.

There have been more Wincestiel fics popping up on deancastiel. I really need to start reading the warnings more carefully.

I'm currently rereading Shootin' You Straight. I'd forgotten how hot that was. Rockstarpeach seems to be off writing Wincest now. I hope she doesn't abandon D/C.

I've drifted from my initial reaction of sorrow towards Dean and more towards horror at what he did. Not to put a fine point on it, he mind-raped Lisa.

My heart of heart feels both. He looked at this thing - this concept of family and pair bonding - he wanted and he so desperately wanted it, but he gave it up.

But it was also skeevy as fuck.

But it was also skeevy as fuck.

I think it's the combination of the sorrow and the horror/skeeviness (I am so, so glad they had Sam call him out on it right away) that made the moment so painful.

I'm still mad that they had Lisa just stop putting up protections around her house like all Dean's precautions were some sort of delusion when she'd had next-door neighbors killed by monsters previously. There are plenty of ways she and Ben could have been caught off guard (hell, it happens to the Winchesters and Bobby all the time) without making it look like she has the memory of a goldfish and self-preservation instincts of a lemming.

If I can remember to turn my AC down every day to avoid a spike in my electric bill, you'd think she could have remembered to lay down salt lines and devil's traps to avoid being attacked by demons in her own home.

Hugging pillow chick has made another. She's good, but not a little creepy. She offered, apparently, to send one to Vicki.

What Dean did was wrong, possibly unsafe, and totally in character. If he could live a life where only Sam remembered him...no, he would sacrifice that too, in order to spare them the blight of his unworthiness.

I think it's quite in keeping with Dean's character for him to take the heartbreak and loss all onto himself and to try to fix something he believes he broke. Was it skeevy? Maybe. But what was the alternative?

Ben saw his mother possessed, saying horrible things to Ben and to Dean, calling her a whore as the demon held a knife to Ben's throat. He saw his mother mortally wounded by the demon, had a gun thrust into his hands by Dean while Dean carried his mother out of the building. Ben shot humans possessed by demons and watched his mother bleeding to death in the hospital. With Lisa saved and their memories intact, how could Dean make it right? How could he leave them broken and afraid? And he had to leave them.

Yeah, Castiel saved her life but not the mental anguish, fear and trauma that would have haunted them for the rest of their lives. Dean's act, selfish and selfless as Juliebird pointed out, gave them back their lives.

He broke my heart with what he did, but IMHO it was totally a Dean thing to do. Sam called him out and it was totally a Sam thing to do. Still, Dean's been sacrificing his own happiness since he was four years old. I wouldn't expect anything less from him.

What Dean did was wrong, possibly unsafe, and totally in character.

This. I'd emphasize the "possibly," though, because I'm not sure without Dean in the picture, and given where the "battle" ended that Lisa and Ben would have been a target anymore anyway.

The moment really broke me, for mostly for Dean (and JA played it so subtly and beautifully broken himself). Objectively, I knew it was the writers putting a period to that storyline and those characters, and while I know it was wrong, I can't get worked up about it because I also believed Dean would do it, and why.