Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Consuela - May 01, 2009 4:46:36 pm PDT #2011 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't really think he's going to walk out of Bobby's deeeemonic panic room and thank them for weakening him.

My new theory? Sam's gonna go ballistic, and Bobby's gonna die.

I also would like to think Sam has some abilities that are inherent

Well, we sort of thought he did, until the first demon-blood reveal. Which in a sense I kind of like: because it makes Sam no different than Dean in his fundamental humanity. There's nothing special about the Winchesters, just bloody-minded determination and the worst luck in the world.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 01, 2009 5:06:50 pm PDT #2012 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sam's still had prophetic dreams (the last was that sexy one about Bela, right?), but that's fairly ephemeral and certainly nothing beyond the abilities of numerous psychics we've run into over the course of the series.

I'd thought from the way he killed Gordon that he was developing Buffy-esque strength, but apparently whoever stunt coordinated that episode adheres to the belief that a regular person of Jared's size can decapitate someone by pulling on a wire loop really hard. @@


Morgana - May 01, 2009 5:16:29 pm PDT #2013 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Sam's still had prophetic dreams (the last was that sexy one about Bela, right?), but that's fairly ephemeral and certainly nothing beyond the abilities of numerous psychics we've run into over the course of the series.

Yep, he's had visions and prophetic dreams. And at least once he's had telekinesis (when he moved that cabinet so he could get out of the closet and save crazed psychic kid from shooting Dean). So I think the groundwork was laid that Sam had a few abilities beyond the norm... so either Ruby's blood really increased his abilities, or Ruby's just allowing him to think that they're due to her influence.


Typo Boy - May 01, 2009 5:36:48 pm PDT #2014 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, but weren't Sam's abilities all from having had demonic blood as a kid?


Consuela - May 01, 2009 6:21:07 pm PDT #2015 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, but weren't Sam's abilities all from having had demonic blood as a kid?

Yeah, that was my point. We've seen no evidence that Sam has abilities beyond what Azazel gave him in the crib.


Morgana - May 01, 2009 6:29:35 pm PDT #2016 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

We've seen no evidence that Sam has abilities beyond what Azazel gave him in the crib.

So you think that everything he can do now he can do because of Azazel's initial infusion, NOT because of what Ruby's been feeding him?


Typo Boy - May 01, 2009 6:56:53 pm PDT #2017 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well I assumed that he had some abilities from the initial feeding, but more demon blood equals more strength. Of course some of the other demon-blood kiddies abilities got stronger as they used them more, so maybe not the only way to develop. But definitely seems one way.


sumi - May 01, 2009 7:05:57 pm PDT #2018 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

The powers that Sam had pre-Ruby were telepathic dreams and some sort of shield against Lilith's power, right? Or did he have some sort of telekinesis too?


Morgana - May 01, 2009 7:12:22 pm PDT #2019 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Or did he have some sort of telekinesis too?

In the Season 1 episode "Nightmare" one of the other kids with the same birthday/mom dead in a fire criteria turns out to have been repeatedly beaten by his dad and uncle. He kills them, making it look like suicide. The Winchesters try to keep him from killing the stepmother, and Sam ends up locked in a closet with a huge piece of furniture in front of it. He has another vision of Dean being shot, and somehow uses telekinesis to move the furniture out of the way so he can get out and go to rescue Dean and the stepmother. But I can't recall if it's popped up anywhere else.


sumi - May 01, 2009 7:17:53 pm PDT #2020 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

That's right. I don't think he ever was able to do that again. (But did he practice? Not that we know.)