Would definitely love to see Missouri again. She totally rocked my world.

::sitting with Aillean and Amy.

She's not busy on GA anymore. . . they need to bring her back.

Missouri casts such a huge shadow throughout fanfiction that I tend to forget that she only appeared in ONE episode. Awesome like that resonates. I would love to see her more, but perhaps not as much as we see Bobby because that would dilute her. (And speaking of Bobby... I adore Bobby, but maybe the boys could start doing a little research on their own again instead of just picking up the phone? And yeah, Bobby must be getting tired of driving hundreds of miles at an instant's notice - I almost said "at the drop of a hat" but that was just too obvious - to save their asses on such a regular basis.)

Mostly I agree with everything you've already written: We need Ellen back. The guys have had so little ongoing female presence in their life, and Ellen is no-nonsense but protective and loving and she could at the very least be at the other end of some of those phone calls. I wasn't as fond of Jo because of the way the writers tried to force her down the audiences' throats as a potential love interest, but I did like her in that episode set in Philadelphia with the serial-killer ghost in the apartment building (although that episode is sorely lacking in Sam, but that's another subject). Pamela was awesome- funny, brave, snarky - and a potential ally and source of info, so of course she was knocked off. I preferred the first incarnation of Ruby, because this one doesn't seem to have much of a personality at all. She's boring. Sarah from Bloody Mary also was awesome - funny, brave, willing to take a chance... and we haven't seen or heard about her since. I don't miss Cassie, don't really want to see her again (although I suppose Dean mentioning that he's spoken on the phone with her would add continuity). Anna was bland, and weak.

Really, from a storytelling perspective, having either of the Winchesters involved in a long-term romantic relationship wouldn't work for oh so many reasons. Practically, the change locations every few days. But overall, their focus is the coming apocalypse, and flowers and dinner dates really wouldn't fit around the edges. (Sam didn't even have to leave Cara's office!) And on a shallow note, I originally was drawn into this show because of the brotherly bond, and the efforts of these two characters to rebuild that bond and find their way back to each other. I want to watch them, and not spend a chunk of each ep watching random women.

Missouri was only in ONE episode? Not even two? Holy crap.

boggles

and she could at the very least be at the other end of some of those phone calls

Yes - it annoys me that they don't do that. What, she's suddenly OutOfTheLoopenstein, just because the Road House is gone? She's working in a TGI Friday's and forgotten all about the whole mass of demons she saw exploding out of the devils' gate? I don't think so.

Le sigh.

I am, however, utterly in love with Jilli's Missouri-centric canon. In love.

What, she's suddenly OutOfTheLoopenstein, just because the Road House is gone? She's working in a TGI Friday's and forgotten all about the whole mass of demons she saw exploding out of the devils' gate? I don't think so.

In my personal canon, she and Jo have met up again, and are the baddest-ass mother-daughter demon fighting team ever.

Oooh. Oooh, yeah. That's...huh. Yeah. There should be an LJ community dedicated to this, and a shedload of fic. Yes.

I agree on that one, but that just frustrated me with the writers, rather than with Bela. (Which is totally a YMMV thing, obviously!)

To me it's one and the same, as Bela only reads as a producers' plot contrivance to me rather than a real character in her own right.

I'm still fond of the theory that Ruby is either Meg, or someone in the same kind of role and position as Meg, working Azazel's gameplan for him - it's just too damn similar

I feel quite certain that Ruby is pursuing an ultimately malevolent agenda with Sam. If she did turn out to be Meg after all, it would be inspired.

I preferred the first incarnation of Ruby, because this one doesn't seem to have much of a personality at all.

She had plenty of personality when possessing that maid in the motel. Maybe they should ditch Genevieve and get that actress back.

I would love, love, LOVE for Samantha Ferris to show up as a surprise guest star in the season finale in Jim Beaver's place and ride to the rescue.

I feel quite certain that Ruby is pursuing an ultimately malevolent agenda with Sam.

It seems like the only likely motivation, honestly. In which case, I'm going to be pissed if it's true and Sam has doggedly decided to ignore ALL THE SIGNS. Like, persuading him to use her as a personal drinking fountain of Demonic Power! I mean, come on, Sam.

And yet, I feel like the writers have to know how suspicious she looks, so they *have* to have another plan up their sleeves.

Of course, believing that is the path to madness, so.

I actually think it would be better writing to have her agenda be pretty much as claimed.

But I'm betting that the people who think she has an agenda bound in nunskin are right.

Vid lovers, I just discovered and watched this. I like it a lot. It reminds me of my perennial favorite SPN vid, Passenger Seat, though this one is a broader canvas, a wider focus.

ETA: I linked to the vidder's LJ. You can get the YouTube link there, also a dl link, and leave fb, if you like.