I don't think so, but the logical time would be sometime after the Season 2 finale when they were both involved in the business at the Devil's Gate.
Come on. You drop by for a cup of coffee, and the world's not ending? Please.
Connor ,'Not Fade Away'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 18, 2011 2:40:17 pm PDT #19175 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Anne W. - Apr 18, 2011 2:43:07 pm PDT #19176 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
That makes sense, Matt. This episode has me missing Ellen all over again (which I suppose was the intent).
Laga - Apr 18, 2011 3:04:10 pm PDT #19177 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Oh me too. I wish there was some way we could have kept Ellen and Jo.
Juliebird - Apr 18, 2011 4:53:57 pm PDT #19178 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I'm discussing Sam's time in hell with a friend.
She thinks Lucifer tortured Adam, and that Sam got in on the action, and I like to think that Sam was fairly untouched, and that simply being there at all was torture enough. Or that Lucifer did take out his rage on those around him, but somehow Sam remained untouched, and that Sam's psychological torture is all about Sam's guilt about being left alone, a helpless witness to Lucifer venting his frustrations out on Adam and Michael (leaving Sam alone in the hopes of escaping/being freed and reclaiming his true vessel). I don't think Sam's time in the cage should be a retread of Dean's time in hell, torturing and enjoying it, which is where she's at. And I also don't just want to go for straight torture of Sam, as it seems the obvious choice. So, maybe Sam's experience was one of just witnessing. And being unable to stop it.
So, if my leanings were to be true, would the psychological ramifications be devastatingly on par to being the victim of torture? Bearing helpless witness, and then the survivor's guilt that would come with being saved while Adam is left behind? Or is this a case of Occam's Razor, and the obvious, simple answer is the right one.
I really just want the four of them to have been in the cage playing poker, bored out their minds, all equally helpless. And Sam's trauma was ennui for hundreds of years. People go insane from that shit, yo.
Theresa - Apr 18, 2011 5:13:44 pm PDT #19179 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
This episode has me missing Ellen all over again (which I suppose was the intent).
I was thinking this over the weekend. Ellen was awesome. Once again her death protects the boys. But I guess this time doesn't count as a death?
Bobby and the boys obviously need her. I want her back.
Juliebird - Apr 18, 2011 5:16:28 pm PDT #19180 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
As distracted as I was watching the ep (explaining the show to my mom's bff in a hotel room) I was extremely relieved and glad that Ellen wasn't some evil incarnation sent to torture Bobby and the boys. Yet I'm sure it was worse that it really was Ellen.
JenP - Apr 18, 2011 6:05:26 pm PDT #19181 of 30002
t shallow
Ellen's hair was so pretty.
t /shallow
Theresa - Apr 18, 2011 6:18:49 pm PDT #19182 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I was thinking she was really pretty too, but I think that's just because I love her so much.
Juliebird - Apr 18, 2011 6:24:44 pm PDT #19183 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I was actually thinking that she was too spit and polished. Missed my rough and tumble Ellen, with the dirty blonde hair. Didn't quite know what to make of the luxurious locks of shiny dark brown hair.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 18, 2011 6:58:57 pm PDT #19184 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
When... did Ellen have blonde hair? Samantha Ferris has been some variety of brunette in everything I recall ever seeing her in.