The loud ticking sound you hear is my biological clock. That could totally be mine and Jensen's kid!
Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.
Mal ,'The Message'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Vortex - Apr 08, 2011 6:28:18 am PDT #18957 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Amy - Apr 08, 2011 6:29:39 am PDT #18958 of 30002
Because books.
The smirk is the best part. It's totally, "See? See how velvety smooth I am? This kid LOVES me."
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2011 5:09:30 pm PDT #18959 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I loved "Weekend at Bobby's" so much the first time around and now it just makes me mad that they subsequently wasted Rufus, but not before unnecessarily angsting up his relationship with Bobby, which was clearly of the friendly bickering sort in this episode.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2011 5:14:32 pm PDT #18960 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
By "wasted" do you mean "killed" or "used carelessly"?
Morgana - Apr 08, 2011 5:15:46 pm PDT #18961 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
not before unnecessarily angsting up his relationship with Bobby, which was clearly of the friendly bickering sort in this episode
During that exchange where they were doing the "Thanks Bobby, I owe you" / "No, I still owe you more" / "Well add this to the list" (paraphrased, obviously), I found myself waiting for the angst that we saw in their last similar interlude and it was nowhere to be found. (You know, the implied "you killed my wife and I'll never ever forgive you for it" part of that episode.)
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2011 5:17:48 pm PDT #18962 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I haven't seen as much fic as I was expecting to explain that. I didn't get that he killed his wife, but rather that she died/was exposed to jeopardy through Bobby's oversight.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2011 5:35:11 pm PDT #18963 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
By "wasted" do you mean "killed" or "used carelessly"?
Yes.
Juliebird - Apr 08, 2011 5:41:12 pm PDT #18964 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Speaking from my own experience of such adamant REPRESS REPRESS REPRESS or else I'll go mad, I can see Rufus operating superficially on a friendly level. Fuck, life goes on, shit needs doing, these are the people you got. And it's all good, just so long as you don't ask, don't talk about it. Never Mention It. But if you do, the untapped depth of emotion that can boil up --it's debilitating.
Granted, my experience doesn't come close to "you are responsible in some way for my significant other dying", but on a lesser level, I see the real potential for a dichotomy of interacting with a person that you hate/are angry-with-on-a-fundamental-level.
I almost see it as a Ellen/John relationship, if we ever got to see that. Colleagues, allies, seeming friends, but a well of bad feeling lurking.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2011 5:53:40 pm PDT #18965 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I regret Rufus's death, but I think it was well done. So I don't think he was wasted except as a colloquialism. Not in the Supernatural universe.
I think Bobby and Rufus had a surface-level version of what Dean claimed at the end of the episode. They had to do life or death stuff together, and they trusted each other with their lives, but there was that thing. And Rufus was still mad. But that didn't mean Rufus didn't trust Bobby from here on in, and that he didn't have a reasonably good time with him.
Amy - Apr 08, 2011 7:14:22 pm PDT #18966 of 30002
Because books.
Secondary, and tertiary, characters are fine, and I love it when they're nicely fleshed out, but in this kind of show, you have to keep focus. It's not ER where you can have endless characters and storylines floating around.