Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

'Beneath You'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Apr 08, 2011 5:53:40 pm PDT #18965 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I regret Rufus's death, but I think it was well done. So I don't think he was wasted except as a colloquialism. Not in the Supernatural universe.

I think Bobby and Rufus had a surface-level version of what Dean claimed at the end of the episode. They had to do life or death stuff together, and they trusted each other with their lives, but there was that thing. And Rufus was still mad. But that didn't mean Rufus didn't trust Bobby from here on in, and that he didn't have a reasonably good time with him.


Amy - Apr 08, 2011 7:14:22 pm PDT #18966 of 30002
Because books.

Secondary, and tertiary, characters are fine, and I love it when they're nicely fleshed out, but in this kind of show, you have to keep focus. It's not ER where you can have endless characters and storylines floating around.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 09, 2011 3:19:49 am PDT #18967 of 30002
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

I felt his death was essentially gilding the lily... we'd already had the shocking deaths of two supporting characters in the episode, one sympathetic and one who'd been fairly important to the Winchesters (more so than Rufus, actually). I think that should have sufficed.


Juliebird - Apr 09, 2011 5:50:45 am PDT #18968 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What I didn't like was how they staged his death. It had to be part of a narrative trick to fake us out about whether Bobby was dead. It had a whiff off "Don't worry, only Rufus died."


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2011 6:45:13 am PDT #18969 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Random bits from the Jus In Bello convention so far:

  • Misha's mother had his brother hid weed in his underpants
  • Misha got arrested in a bank robbery for being in the wrong place at the wrong time (reading a book on the roof)


Amy - Apr 09, 2011 7:18:21 am PDT #18970 of 30002
Because books.

Misha's going to need to write a comprehensive memoir one day, I think.


JenP - Apr 09, 2011 7:22:19 am PDT #18971 of 30002

I think Misha's mom might be as entertaining as her son.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2011 7:24:04 am PDT #18972 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

His brother was five at the time.

Misha becomes more and more plausible.


Amy - Apr 09, 2011 8:28:20 am PDT #18973 of 30002
Because books.

His brother was five at the time.

Okay, that's a little fucked up.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2011 8:39:19 am PDT #18974 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, at least he wasn't complicit?

I got nothing. It's more harmless than the ball of hash my first boyfriend ate when he was a toddler.