Mal: Zoe, why do I have a wife? Jayne: You got a wife? All I got is that dumbass stick sounds like its raining. How come you got a wife?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2011 4:00:07 pm PDT #18781 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Raped, like by other people? Maybe?

Also raped by Sam.

But, bear in mind, this is only gleaned by reading people talking about fics, not even by reading synopses. They just painted it like victim Dean was the hottest little thing and his hole was ripe for abusing by everyone, family, friends, and foes.

But in terms of being taken care of, probably not so much--just that he's being abused. He probably still nurtures despite that.

I skimmed through that writer's journal, and she's very adamant about not rereading her stuff, much less having someone else do it. She has errors in her summaries that she copies forward from section to section. I can't imagine not having *any* shame.

Not beta-ed is one thing (I admit, I put forward quite a few pictures without getting feedback first, but that's different), but not revising? Running a spell check? Why would you not?


Amy - Mar 30, 2011 4:04:11 pm PDT #18782 of 30002
Because books.

They just painted it like victim Dean was the hottest little thing and his hole was ripe for abusing by everyone, family, friends, and foes.

Yeah, I guess that's out there. Maybe I should have said it's not part of what I read. At the first hint of abuse or noncon between them, I'm out, or I don't even go in.

I get that incest is a stretch, but outside of that, I try to stick to stories where the boys aren't wildly OOC.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 30, 2011 4:06:27 pm PDT #18783 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Not beta-ed is one thing (I admit, I put forward quite a few pictures without getting feedback first, but that's different), but not revising? Running a spell check? Why would you not?

I'm guessing rebellion against one's 7th grade English teacher?


Juliebird - Mar 30, 2011 5:03:37 pm PDT #18784 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think you're onto something Matt. And they might possibly be in eighth grade.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2011 5:07:40 pm PDT #18785 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just tried to read another story where the boys were startled and dropped their guns which then got jammed with snow. I don't care if there's hot porn later. It's just stupid.

And then there's the one which is nice and clear with the summary:

Dean and Castiel are brothers and their parents are dead. From the ages of 6 and 4 they share a room at the childrens home they end up in. Dean means a lot to Cas - Father, mother, brother, best friend, and quite possibly everything else as well. Incest, not creepy, I hope.

No, what would be creepy about that? Heaven forfend. I mean, seriously.


Juliebird - Mar 30, 2011 5:14:09 pm PDT #18786 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

oh ita, you missed the best part in the first chapter:

Ok, there are plotty reasons why this is all ok, but to reveal them now would ruin the point – so you'll just have to trust me. I had this idea after reading another fic and was left with the idea that Castiel makes a much better brother than Sam. So yes, whilst this is technically an incest fic, it does have a point and I'll try not to let it be weird.

there's a reason why the incest is okay.

Also, Cas makes a better brother than Sam.

I'm not sure which I am more agog at.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2011 5:32:40 pm PDT #18787 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, I definitely did not click through.

"technically an incest fic"

OMG, what is our fandom?

And, seriously, if Castiel makes a better brother, you're doing it wrong.


Juliebird - Mar 30, 2011 5:45:54 pm PDT #18788 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

capslock author's note writer wrote me back. *Maybe* they'll think about changing their disclaimer. But it's about the plot, gosh darnit. And if only we'd just look past that and read for the plot, it's not the authors fault the advertisement sucks. --Oh, wait.

OMG, I'm picking a fight. This will end badly for me, I can tell.


Amy - Mar 30, 2011 5:52:25 pm PDT #18789 of 30002
Because books.

That's so absurd. It's like cooking a huge seafood meal out of the freshest, best catch of the day and telling everyone to ignore the bits of seaweed and the sand in the shells. By then, no one's going to care if the lobster is frigging magical.


Juliebird - Mar 30, 2011 5:59:52 pm PDT #18790 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

That's like the chef declaring "I DIDN'T MAKE SURE THE PORK WAS COOKED TO 145 DEGREES. AND THE MUSSELS MIGHT NOT HAVE OPENED WHEN I BOILED THEM. EAT UP."