I finally read Night at the Museum, now that it's complete. Well written and different plot-wise, but it takes off from Dean dying in the End!verse, and I wasn't sure if Dean was going to stay dead, and then it got kind wtf, and there was lots of naval gazing.

Fics starting off or based on a canonical death are okay. And I can kinda respect that some authors like yellow_pomelo consciously refuse to warn for plot spoilers, but I know the author enough now to know that death and other unsavory things are the potential price of a well-written fic from them. I'm actually somewhat okay if everybody dies, or the two main pairing die. The angst for me is way less than if one has to live without the other, permanently. And if the death is at the beginning, up front and part of the summary, and there's still story after the death, I can handle it. But, as a conclusion, makes Julie vewy unhappy.

would you include a canon death*

I know I've read stories that have had warnings that were something like: "Canon Death of a character" without a problem, because I knew the author wasn't going to knock off Sam or Dean. The loss of John or Mary, if they aren't already deceased before the beginning of the story (in which case the warning would be unnecessary, I feel) would be sad but wouldn't break me the way the loss of one of the boys would.

It's weird for me because I come from a book background, and I've written jacket copy for years. And there you only give the most basic setup, and leave out anything that would ruin any kind of surprise.

I also now wonder if I warned for character death in one fic I wrote where Dean didn't survive the demon deal, and Sam never saved him. Oops.

I like warnings for canon death, since they've all died. If the story features them not coming back from a canon death, I may not be interested unless it's really good.

I wish people would also warn up front if they hate Sam. It would save time. If you think Dean is better off without him, I don't care how hot the porn gets. You're not writing anything vaguely related to what I want out of the show.

I wish authors would warn if they have a complete inability to discern whether "your" or "you're" is appropriate to use in a given sentence, or to tell the difference between "whose" and "who's." It's not naming villains on Stargate people, don't just throw apostrophes all over the damn place at random!

So, I have ventured into certain fic territory, and I just have to ask, why does that subset seem to HATE JDM? Why the evil rapey villain? WHY? What did Jeffrey ever do to anyone?

Are you talking about RPS, Julie? Because I've seen toppy (hella), but never that.

Julie, you have wandered where I cannot follow. A slavefic description that got me kinda agitated had JDM as Jensen's master, and aiee. Unless it's shameless apologia, I can't go there ten times harder with RPF.

Yeah, Amy. I have stuck to the AU's, but I keep getting surprised with JDM being the villain of the piece, if not a downright vile character. And it's never in the description. There's the eternally amusing warnings for CMM's existence, but I really wish there was a warning for, like with Sam, hating JDM/John.

I don't get people who hate either brother. Why are they watching this show?

I have stuck to the AU's

I don't read a lot of those, and the ones I have read don't villainize him (not that I would read them if they warned for it).

I think I know the AU ita is referring to, though, and it was a very ambitious but not unproblematic AU where owning slaves was not only legal but sort of required for a certain class. It was incredibly romanticized, and Jeff was secretly allied with those who were trying to free them, etc., so his relationship with Jensen was really complex, and ultimately very caring. But like I said, *hugely* problematic and not in the least bit realistic are understatements. The representation of Jensen came really close to angst/abuse porn (from his past) a lot of the time.

Which is a long way of saying in that one Jeff is painted as a hero, but if you can't stomach a 'verse with slavery, it ain't for you.