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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Apparently the sets have been leased for next season.
To SPN, you mean?
Yup.
Oh, excellent!
Okay, quick questions about Dark Side Of The Moon:
- Did Zachariah manipulate what memories the boys saw?
- Did the boys share the same heaven?
- Are they soulmates?
- What was up with Pamela? Was she really her?
- Was Ash really him?
Now, for me, I thought no, yes, yes, weirdo, maybe not, yes. And apart from Pamela, I'm surprised there's even a question.
You guys?
These are quick?
This episode drives me nuts, because there are so many great moments and revelations in it, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. At minimum the writers didn't seem to establish the rules of how heaven works, at least so I could understand them.
If Ash's heaven is the roadhouse, for example, is that his ... home? We know he can travel, but I assume not everyone can. So is Pamela really at a show at the Meadowlands on a daily basis, unless Ash picks her up to visit?
Given what Ash explained, it didn't make sense to me that the boys wound up together, unless they are in fact soul mates. But I also didn't get the journey part of their time in heaven, outside of it being necessary for plot purposes.
My hope is that Heaven isn't actually a lonely greatest hits holodeck experience for everyone forever; that what we saw is just an initial stage (kind of like Robin Williams' experiences in What Dreams May Come) until they're ready to interact with others who've been there longer.
If Ash's heaven is the roadhouse, for example, is that his ... home?
Well, it was where he lived on Earth, so that makes sense to me.
until they're ready to interact with others who've been there longer.
But Ash said explicitly that people don't interact with others unless you do the Enochian magic or they're soulmates. So do you think he was wrong or lying?
Why would Ash lie, though?
There was no one at the roadhouse with him, but we saw him bring Pamela there. I guess my question is, are you always alone in heaven? Because that's sort of horrible.
And how does that explain Sam at Thanksgiving with his little girlfriend's family? Where they landed seems more like a dreamscape (or memoryscape) than heaven, at least the way I've usually heard it described. And I certainly wouldn't want to be alone.
The problem for me is that they needed Ash there to explain how it worked, and how to get to Jacob, but having him there screwed with the logic of the rest of what we saw.