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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Feb 19, 2011 7:28:38 am PST #18009 of 30002
Because books.

I loved both Lisa and Ben last night. Ben was doing exactly what he knew would push Dean's buttons (and I love that Sam was right there with him), and Lisa is totally moving on. I adore her, and I really don't blame her too much for trying with Dean -- for a year, they were a family, and that could have blown up for a lot of reasons with a man coming in that far into their lives, not only because of Dean's damage and work.

But I didn't feel like they punctuated it right. The montage didn't quite work as closure there, for me, even though the last image is Lisa's frown when she opens the door. I need to watch it again.

The SamandDean show is fantastic, even though the ending was so bittersweet. Both of them have sacrificed so much that all they have left is each other, but I think Dean really believed it this time, and was grateful, when Sam said he had Dean's back.

The MotW felt a little sloppy to me, although there was excellent creep and the scene with the Impala was priceless, simply for Dean's outrage. I felt that way last week, too, though -- the arachne's motives and operating principles were a little vague for me.

But they're giving me excellent SamandDean, and I can't argue with that. Dean's wibbling lip while Sam was passed out was heartbreaking.

The meds did surprise me, though. Where is Dean scoring ... what? Oxycontin? Ativan? Not that it's not pretty easy to do it, but we've always seen him reaching for the bottle instead.


§ ita § - Feb 19, 2011 7:32:43 am PST #18010 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not that it's not pretty easy to do it, but we've always seen him reaching for the bottle instead.

I need to know when, too. When Sam was around, but behind his back? During Stanford? The year with Lisa? I NEED TO KNOW.


Amy - Feb 19, 2011 7:38:17 am PST #18011 of 30002
Because books.

I would guess during the year with Lisa, if not when he came back from hell. I don't think he would have needed anything more than alcohol before that.

We know he's no stranger to the occasional bong hit, etc., but that's recreational. The way he said "effective" made me think of someone using to sleep and forget, and it makes the most sense it would have started during the year with Lisa, when he had the most to forget.

It's also incredibly easy to get prescription meds in the suburbs, and it could have been where he got the idea in the first place.


-t - Feb 19, 2011 7:39:08 am PST #18012 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I had the impression that the pills are more of an extreme measure and aimed more at physical pain than psychic, whereas the alcohol is a more constant crutch. Thinking about it now, I don't know how I got that from the one scene.

I found the Lisa-opens-the-door-to-Dean montage hilarious. Like, that's their whole relationship - he shows up and she reacts.


§ ita § - Feb 19, 2011 7:40:34 am PST #18013 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's also incredibly easy to get prescription meds in the suburbs

Maybe I should move, then.

that the pills are more of an extreme measure and aimed more at physical pain

Wasn't he offering them to Sam for mental relief? Physically Sam was okay.


-t - Feb 19, 2011 7:46:15 am PST #18014 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The way he was pinching his nose and saying he felt like he got hit with a planet said physical aftereffects to me.


ehab - Feb 19, 2011 7:47:25 am PST #18015 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I found the Lisa-opens-the-door-to-Dean montage hilarious. Like, that's their whole relationship - he shows up and she reacts.

Hah! This also occurred to me when I was watching.

Wasn't he offering them to Sam for mental relief? Physically Sam was okay.

I thought it was for the physical pain. Sam was rubbing his head like he had a pretty vicious headache. Then again, I think I made up a little narrative in my head to explain that scene. I found the pills a bit unexpected.


Amy - Feb 19, 2011 7:51:53 am PST #18016 of 30002
Because books.

Maybe I should move, then.

Well, I didn't say legally.

Dean may have meant physical pain in part, but bundling it in with the whole DENY! REPRESS! speech, I definitely thought it had more to do with getting a dreamless night's sleep than anything else.


§ ita § - Feb 19, 2011 7:52:13 am PST #18017 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought he was suggesting it like he suggested alcohol, but I can see that.


-t - Feb 19, 2011 7:54:58 am PST #18018 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Regardless of the accuracy of what I've already said, it seems pretty clear that Dean hadn't offered prescription bottles to Sam before, so I'm thinking they are a post-Hell sort of thing, timing-wise.

Eta: the pills were bundled with the coffee and food for fixing what's wrong with you now. It was just alcohol and violence for the repression. FWTW