Oddly enough, quite a number of folks really hated the meta elements of the episode, particularly the bits at the beginning, with the fangirl and the slash. Hated it so much they hated the episode as a whole.
YBMV, and clearly does.
Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.
'Serenity'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Consuela - Apr 03, 2009 7:50:08 pm PDT #1689 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
-t - Apr 03, 2009 8:17:12 pm PDT #1690 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The actor who played Chuck's publisher was damned familiar
She was the lab chick on Jake 2.0, also. That is probably how I will always think of her.
The angels are extremely interesting all of a sudden. Castiel being all clever at getting around the rules and Zachariah, well, I'd think he was evil except no archangel showing up must mean he's not.
-t - Apr 03, 2009 8:21:29 pm PDT #1691 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Oh, and I really wanted Chuck to answer Dean's "Slaughterhouse 5 or Cat's Cradle?" with Breakfast of Champions.
Atropa - Apr 03, 2009 8:32:19 pm PDT #1692 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Oddly enough, quite a number of folks really hated the meta elements of the episode, particularly the bits at the beginning, with the fangirl and the slash.
That didn't bug me at all. Mind you, as soon as the comic shop guy said "Ohhhh, you're LARPers!", I nearly passed out from laughter.
Fay - Apr 03, 2009 10:24:47 pm PDT #1693 of 30002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I'm seeing a lot of Wincest 'shippers being upset about the episode (although I get the impression that perhaps a lot of them are not liking the season much?), whilst the Dean/Castiel people are all gleeful, for the most part. Which works for me.
§ ita § - Apr 03, 2009 10:56:50 pm PDT #1694 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, now we know for sure they aren't sleeping together.
Because, really, until now it was totally a possibility.
Polter-Cow - Apr 03, 2009 11:25:20 pm PDT #1695 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It totally was, ita. It was also a possibility that they rode unicorns when we weren't looking.
Fay - Apr 04, 2009 12:36:10 am PDT #1696 of 30002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I feel kind of bad for them, in a OMGWTFRealityCheck kind of way. I mean, if you ARE calling yourself MrsDeanWinchester on a posting board, and madly shipping Dean/Sam, and have gone and got a tattoo, or whatever, then this is definitely a nasty little smackdown from your happy place.
Got to say, though, I do love the fact that SPN fandom is so avidly perverse with the Dean/Sam and the J2 stuff that they have consciously introduced big gay angel slashbait to try to distract the fangirls. This is made of win!
...I'm so not a Dean/Sam shipper. Which is hilarious, since I am nevertheless writing Dean/Sam at present. And I'm going with it, because it makes sense for the story, but it definitely came along despite my expectations and predisposition, and took 35,000 words to happen. But still, I find myself writing Wincest. Which isn't my beautiful cake. It makes me oddly squirmy about some of the comments it's garnered (and some people's icons, even); on the one hand, I'm engaged with the story, and invested in it, and I think it makes a fucked up sense - but on the other hand I'm still squicked, generally speaking, by the idea of Dean/Sam. I remain a very hard sell on the pairing, and just don't see canon through that lens at all. So people being all "OMG Sam/Dean2getha4evah twu wuv yay!!!" have me just blinking at the screen and wondering how to react.
It's the weirdest experience, as a writer.Here I was playing around with the conceit of Dean being zapped with a gender switch curse a la Tieresias, mostly because I thought Girl!Dean would be hot like woah, and potentially comedy gold, only then it all snowballed and became more Greek by the moment, and the narrative was all pushy about wanting to go there, and - yeah.
Odd.
DebetEsse - Apr 04, 2009 4:59:08 am PDT #1697 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I was late starting the show, so, when I came in, they were talking to publisher-girl. Having seen the beginning, I can imagine not liking the ep as well after the uber-meta in the first couple scenes.
Juliebird - Apr 04, 2009 5:29:05 am PDT #1698 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Loved every inch of the meta.
So, am confused. An archangel did "appear" at the end, right? Even though we didn't see him/her? Or was the archangel *about* to appear and Lilith hit the road before the road hit her?