How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 1:01:33 pm PDT #14614 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Pffft. Gabriel was in disguise. I never gave him serious consideration as an angel till Hammer of the Gods. God/human I have much less trouble with as a concept. Angels have always been asexual in my thinking. They'd have to lose their angelosity to gain the equipment to do the job.

Sort of like the Little Mermaid.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 1:03:47 pm PDT #14615 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I never gave him serious consideration as an angel till Hammer of the Gods.

You ignored Changing Channels? And didn't even flash back to his total randiness in Tall Tales?

I mean, I understand that the concept is quease-making on a level of incest for you, but unlike incest, Show seems to accept it just fine. Castiel just said he'd not wanted to have sex, not that it was outrageous for an angel, and Gabriel was pretty obsessed with it.


Amy - Oct 04, 2010 1:15:40 pm PDT #14616 of 30002
Because books.

Angels have always been asexual in my thinking.

Bu they have been petty, mean, vengeful, and selfish? I guess I just don't get drawing the line at sex. An expression of love and/or pleasure seems a lot less dubious to me than an angel who wants to move up the chain of command, for instance, and is willing to sacrifice billions of human lives to do it.


Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 1:33:16 pm PDT #14617 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Up until the end of Changing Channels, he was the Trickster, Loki, god of mischief. Angel-seeming wasn't retroactive for me, I wasn't even sure I bought the reveal. He didn't appear having re-assumed his angelic mantle until Hammer of the Gods. He's always been the Trickster, and was that until Hammer of the Gods, where the only sexual interaction he had was with another god.

I look at Uriel, at Anna post-grace, at Michael in both vessels, even at Lucifer in The End, and none of them have an iota of humanity, let alone sex about them. Castiel is the same, whether riding Claire or Jimmy. They're just too alien a being. Sex with a human--with any being--is unthinkable. Castiel was becoming more humanized, and the squick had completely disappeared in The End. But there was no angel left--he was by then almost completely human. Zachariah is repulsive, but even when he was attempting to gross Sam and Dean out by coming on to his version of Mary, he wasn't remotely sexual, it was a perversion of the human perception of sex.

Misha is completely adorable, and Castiel is an intriguing and compelling character. I get that people want to get pretty boys together, and most of the time I'm all there. But for me personally, I just don't see the slash potential with angels. I realize I'm probably a minority of one.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 1:34:16 pm PDT #14618 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

On a different topic, bets on who Sampa was talking to?

  • New character?
  • Angel?
  • Demon?
  • Human?

Bets on how long he stays on the show? Past halfway through the season?


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 1:36:09 pm PDT #14619 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's always been the Trickster, and was that until Hammer of the Gods, where the only sexual interaction he had was with another god.

You do get that you're wedging canon into that asexuality you prefer, right? Because even if it's a retcon, Gabe's sexuality in Tall Tales is on the record.


Typo Boy - Oct 04, 2010 1:36:24 pm PDT #14620 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I like "Sampa". Did you just invent it?


Juliebird - Oct 04, 2010 1:38:21 pm PDT #14621 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I want Sampa (best name EVER!) to be talking to Crowley.


Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 1:41:04 pm PDT #14622 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Ooh, Crowley. Best idea I've heard yet.

If I work at it I can blunt my instinctive squick to canon angel sex? It's a concept.


Laga - Oct 04, 2010 1:42:12 pm PDT #14623 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

After he hung up the phone I asked D, "ooh, do you think he was talking to Crowley?"