how is it fair to punish him for acting as God knew he would act?
Bad shit happens to people all the time as a result of their actions. Why should Lucifer be immune?
Mal: There's plenty orders of mine that she didn't obey. Wash: Name one! Mal: She married you!
'War Stories'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Sep 21, 2010 1:55:09 pm PDT #13955 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Theresa - Sep 21, 2010 1:58:27 pm PDT #13956 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I was thinking in terms of Lucifer fulfilling God's plans, and then still being punished for it. **discussion in the SPN verse, not my personal beliefs.
§ ita § - Sep 21, 2010 2:00:23 pm PDT #13957 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did Lucifer fulfill God's plans any more than Dean did?
Cass - Sep 21, 2010 2:04:20 pm PDT #13958 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I get the impression that fandom at large hated it, but I'd love to know how the viewership at large felt about it.
I only watched it live the once. I plan to rewatch this week. I think I'm a little frightened.
Laga - Sep 21, 2010 2:08:23 pm PDT #13959 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
We just watched it again. I don't hate the episode. The only thing I don't like is Chuck being God but maybe he's more like Jesus or The Holy Ghost.
§ ita § - Sep 21, 2010 2:09:56 pm PDT #13960 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The love! So much love! So little epic battle!
And the Impala!
Of brotherly love!
Stargazing and Ozzy concerts. I go fuzzy thinking of it.
Typo Boy - Sep 21, 2010 2:11:27 pm PDT #13961 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I liked it. It would have been even better if Sam & Dean had gone to hell and Bobby and Castiel had died to defeat Lucifer. But I'm willing to live with that not happening to have a season six. And, given the existence of other God's and a 'Death' as old or older than God who will reap God someday I'm taking it that this Universe's God is neither all-powerful or all-knowing - which means he is not responsible for Lucifer's fall or humanity's.
Theresa - Sep 21, 2010 2:24:16 pm PDT #13962 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Joshua or Jacob, the gardener/Jesus in Heaven, talked about him in the all knowing traditional way. Maybe that was just unreliable narrator though.
Marcia - Sep 21, 2010 2:43:35 pm PDT #13963 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert
Loved Swan Song. I would have its children if I weren't menopausal.
Kripke said at Comicon that he was leaving the Chuck!God thing up to the viewers. He also said God is on Earth banging whores.
I heart Kripke.
Typo Boy - Sep 21, 2010 3:39:37 pm PDT #13964 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Well Death and the other gods told the story differently from the Gardener. So we have to choose between narraters. If the Gardener is right, God is a Dick. Which I'm OK with.