I dunno. It's way too tidy. It creeps me the hell out. Cassie is the one true woman for him for me, if I had to pick. I just never want to see that actress again. Or maybe the chick from Monster Movie. I mean, it's not that much more random than Lisa.
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§ ita § - Sep 20, 2010 4:24:42 pm PDT #13877 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Cass - Sep 20, 2010 4:26:37 pm PDT #13878 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I mean, it's not that much more random than Lisa.
Exactly!
He can romanticize the hell out of a bendy weekend in his head but that doesn't make it Real. (sorry for the Pooh Caps, ita.)
Anne W. - Sep 20, 2010 4:27:25 pm PDT #13879 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
The more I think about it, the more I can believe that Dean and Lisa did have some sort of connection besides that weekend of very bendy sex. Would Dean have sought her out like he did in the year of his deal just because the sex was that great?
Edit: contradictory xpost!
§ ita § - Sep 20, 2010 4:29:32 pm PDT #13880 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Would Dean have sought her out like he did in the year of his deal just because the sex was that great?
Then they should have articulated it. Because that's Exactly (see I can do it too) what he did say. I only got the impression he thought of her again was because of Ben and the near miss paternity wise, and that she wasn't otherwise disgusting.
Amy - Sep 20, 2010 4:29:36 pm PDT #13881 of 30002
Because books.
Even if the reason they didn't have Dean pin the fantasy on Cassie is because of the poor reception to the actress, I'm willing to accept as canon the fact that they were young, they didn't work out, blah blah, and he was over it.
In my head, he was all bendy-weekend-yay! only until he met Ben, and *then* he started to romanticize it. Not just her (not even her, specifically, awesome as she seems) but the whole Life He Didn't Have.
§ ita § - Sep 20, 2010 4:30:41 pm PDT #13882 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Mind meld x-post with Amy.
And that's why I think it's creepy. He's fetishising her son, and otherwise not being unattracted to her.
Cass - Sep 20, 2010 4:31:02 pm PDT #13883 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Would Dean have sought her out like he did in the year of his deal just because the sex was that great?
Yes.
ehab - Sep 20, 2010 4:31:38 pm PDT #13884 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
I think my Dean/Lisa may be born of fatigue for running through female characters. I'm not sure it's rational from a story or plotting perspective, though I am fond of the character and the actress. So many of the alternative story lines I can imagine for extricating her from Dean's life I DO NOT WANT. I'd prefer they fond a graceful way to make her character work.
I'm sick of women being killed off, left, marginalized. I guess I want show to find a way to make her work, without sacrificing the Dean, Sam, Castiel & impala dynamic. Tall order I know.
ETA: I agree with the problems ita mentions, but I think it's possible to build on their shaky foundation and make it work.
Cass - Sep 20, 2010 4:33:54 pm PDT #13885 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
And that's why I think it's creepy. He's fetishising her son
Precisely. This is my issue and ewwwww all wrapped up together.
Amy - Sep 20, 2010 4:34:26 pm PDT #13886 of 30002
Because books.
I'm sick of women being killed off, left, marginalized. I guess I want show to find a way to make her work, without sacrificing the Dean, Sam, Castiel & impala dynamic. Tall order I know.
This is why I mourned for what they could have done with Bela's character. And possibly Ruby's, although that's trickier since she *was* a demon.
It's also hard to say, though. With their life, you can't have them conveniently being able to call on too many people, and they see Bobby a hell of a lot as it is. And I love Bobby! But if they had never introduced Bobby, I would have been happy for his character's role to have been filled by Ellen instead.