Jayne (Husband): Oh, I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature. Mal (Wife): How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people? Jayne (Husband): If I could make you purtier, I would. Mal (Wife): You are not the man I met a year ago.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Sep 08, 2010 4:56:53 pm PDT #13451 of 30002
Because books.

Blech.

God, I want the next three weeks to FLY. FLY, I tell you.


tiggy - Sep 08, 2010 5:09:47 pm PDT #13452 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Jensen should be doing things like this instead of MBV3D.

god, yes. i'm really not a fan of Ryan Phillipe and more than once his Texas accent irked me in that movie.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 08, 2010 5:18:40 pm PDT #13453 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

and all the sex he's had with women hasn't really been real.

Why does a writer even think this is necessary to validate a slashy relationship? Unless Dean forgot to mention one of his former girlfriends or one-night stands rescuing him from Hell on another occasion or dying on his behalf twice, I think Castiel wins the thoughtful gift and show of devotion medals hands-down. Shouldn't that be enough without having to make Dean realize how unsatisfying all the sex he's been enthusiastically having for the last 15 years was too?


Juliebird - Sep 09, 2010 7:09:43 am PDT #13454 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Blind Spot: whoa, good whump. The worst of it was for the most part non-explicit and implied subtley, or simply left to the imagination, and broken up through the narrative via flashbacks/dreams, so it's not overwhelming. And yet still: oh god the pain!

I was very late for work finishing it. I still can't believe that was the story that started with Dean gassing Sam out of the car. I kinda want a sequel, to see how Dean going to and coming back from hell is dealt with in light of this take on season 3 (because I'm mean and don't want Dean to get out of his crossroads deal in this 'verse).


§ ita § - Sep 09, 2010 7:32:38 am PDT #13455 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Google auto-complete relevant to Winchester interests?

eta: I'm definitely going to have to finish Blind Spot, then. I'm three or four chapters in so far, and Dean's hurting pretty good. The other story added Dark!Sam to the mix, and I just don't trust the author, so I'm ditching it.


Amy - Sep 09, 2010 7:48:57 am PDT #13456 of 30002
Because books.

Google auto-complete relevant to Winchester interests?

Wow.


§ ita § - Sep 09, 2010 7:54:55 am PDT #13457 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't even...

For the first time the other day I read a fan defending incest. I don't know what fandom they were in, but I was startled. Usually what I've read is "It's FICTION, fool. And a kink. Leave me alone." But this person was all "Who are you to tell me I can't sleep with my siblings or parents???"

It was kinda weird and most people left them alone.


Amy - Sep 09, 2010 8:01:19 am PDT #13458 of 30002
Because books.

It was kinda weird and most people left them alone.

That's one taboo I don't think anyone is overturning anytime soon, I have to say.


Calli - Sep 09, 2010 8:08:00 am PDT #13459 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think Heinlein addressed incest in a few of his books. His approach seemed to be that incest reinforced genetic problems and was therefore wrong. One of his stories involved a brother and sister who were designed to be genetic problem-free, and he wrote them living happily ever after with one another. I read that when I was around 12, and even then I thought Heinlein might be overlooking a concern or two.

Gay incest avoids the genetic concerns neatly enough (unless you throw in mpreg). My problem's always been more with the probable power imbalances and emotional health issues. I could see an argument that SPN's not overflowing with emotional health, especially for the leads, and I could see an argument for incest stories growing out of that, although they wouldn't be my first choice for reading. But Sam/Dean curtainfic? No. All squick issues aside, I just can't buy it.


Amy - Sep 09, 2010 8:12:28 am PDT #13460 of 30002
Because books.

I think it's interesting the way most fic writers address Wincest, too (talking only about Sam/Dean here, because I can't go anywhere else). In probably 85% of stories, Sam is painted as the one who pushes to make their relationship sexual, and at a young age, which sort of neatly (is that possible?) takes away the problem of power, both in making him younger, and therefore presumably less powerful in the relationship, and not yet larger/stronger physically than Dean, too.