Childish characters that actually piss me off?...I think they do relationships childishly, which is a whole different league from pranking and reading comments and playing with toys.

I realize this is entirely a YMMV kind of thing, because I know he has a lot of admirers, but this is how I feel about NCIS's DiNozzo.

I go back and forth on Tony. Sometimes I find it charming, but mostly I think they failed to write him like Dean because he doesn't have a larger purpose (like saving the world or Sam). He just seems sometimes obsessed with an adopted father figure, and it's a lot less rewarding when that father figure acts like a prick.

He's what's kept me from watching NCIS more than occasionally by chance. I suspect if I tuned in regularly my visceral dislike would grow to rival the loathing I felt for Spike in later seasons.

ita, gedry is the one who had manly Castiel squealing like a 15 year old.

gedry has a lot of schmoop D/C with "demons but not like on the show" that I only made it one installment into. I have absolutely no interest in her worldbuilding or characterisation. Welshiescribble is just badfic, and what I've read of xxlibrarianwhatever was totally OOC porn with SPN names pastede on yay.

I'm pretty sure one of the fics got to the point where they had grandkids and then they died of old age. I didn't make it that far. I think I saw something that was like "part 27/?" and bailed. It's not offensive, it's just . . . lots and lots of domestic nothingness.

Extended multi-part curtainfic. Not my thing either. Gimme a case, angst, first time, something. Also, making the boys demons but not like on the show? WTF? Not my thing.

In actual recs, I've mentioned it before, but she's been updating the WIP more frequently now: DA/SPN crossover: Of Desire and the Status Quo. Pretty angsty, and one WIP I didn't mind getting all up into. 36 chapters (not that long) as of right now. She's also the author of a couple good CM crossovers.

I'm pretty sure one of the fics got to the point where they had grandkids and then they died of old age.

That sounds like fifteen-year-olds writing wish fulfillment fantasy. Yuck.

I'm pretty sure one of the fics got to the point where they had grandkids and then they died of old age.

I can't imagine anything surprising the Winchester boys more.

There's a SPN/Good Omens crossover I've been enjoying, The Arrangement-verse. The author (icarus-chained on LJ) has conflated SPN and GO through Crowley. This seems to take a fair bit of the edge off the SPN version of Crowley, which doesn't always work for me. And the author's from Ireland, I think, and some of her word choices are a tad off for the Winchesters, although they work fine (to my US eyes, anyway) for the GO characters. I like her take on Aziraphale and his reaction to dealing with yet another apocalypse. Some of her plot points have been interesting and nicely thought out. As an angst-fluff layer cake, it's been fun.

The conversation on "fridging" in Movies is making me think how or if SPN would be different if it were John who was killed, and Mary who raised the boys on the road.

I think Kripke may have narrowly escaped a fridging verdict by showing us so much more of Mary's backstory. She did have agency as a character in the past, even if she was caught off-guard in the moment of death.