Hmmm. I see your point about the prank wars and face stuffing. Although we haven't seen much of that since season 2. I saw that sort of thing as remnants of his childhood relationship with Sam. With the Hell House prank war, didn't Sam refer to that as something they use to do?

Dean would probably be the better for a dozen afternoons of RC car races, but I'd mostly see him doing that in the context of caring for Ben.

When was the woopie cushion?

The whoopee cushion was in I Believe the Children Are Our Future, this past season -- the one with the kid, Jesse. He bought it and Cas ended up sitting on it. Heh.

From that episode:

SAM Okay, so whatever's doing this is—is reshaping reality. It has the powers of a god. Or—

SAM rolls his eyes.

SAM —of a trickster.

DEAN Yeah, with the sense of humor of a nine-year-old.

SAM Or you.

So, at the very least, S5 Sam rolls his eyes, and S5 Sam thinks Dean has a juvenile sense of humour.

The rest of his personality (okay, minus the self-esteem issues and the compulsion towards heroism) is what was made illegal in Blue Earth in 99 Problems, and are probably vices in which Sheppard would also indulge.

But I've always seen McKay as more childish anyway.

t /tangent

Hmmm. Looks like The Children Are Our Future pokes a hole in my theory. Oh well.

::never mind::

Okay, besides that Dean totally reminds me of my older brother (which is wrong on so many levels, considering whose girl I am) . . . I forget where I was going with that. Other than: Mature and capable adults are able to also be absolutely immature and irresponsible without reducing themselves to juvenilemisbehaviour. My older brother, due to certain circumstances, lost his later childhood. In his thirties, he is a giant kid who loves Christmas and birthdays and presents and doing stupid things, but is also an organized and efficient manager at his place of business. He works really freaking hard, but he also plays equally hard. And he's got the fucking eyelashes to beat the devil, bastard.

Also, thankfully, my post telling the author what a sick fuck I think they are didn't go through.

This is the second fic I read that didn't warn for the shit they put me through. Nobody castigates for the shit people write. I feel like if i do in these one or two instances, I'm done. And mostly, it's for lacking in appropriate warnings.

What was the fic about, Julie?

In case it wasn't evident, I don't think anything negative about Dean (or Sheppard's) apparent emotional ages. I think they do just fine in the clutch, and even day to day.

Childish characters that actually piss me off? Shawn from Psych and Rodney from SGA. I think they do relationships childishly, which is a whole different league from pranking and reading comments and playing with toys.

Right now I'm reading Supanachuru, a gen BB fic which is just...I'm only in it to see how it ends. It has no plot, and is pretty damned scattered language and storywise. And the warnings? I get the scope of the hints of Wincest, I think. No idea about the "comfortable Dean/Castiel relationship" which I swear wasn't on the fic header this morning, and I swear it just mentioned Bobby/John.

The story has no point.

ita, both were AU's. The first [link] which had me wondering what-the-hell for a bit before descending into ugliness for all characters involved, and the second was [link] which is a WIP but also ended in highschool ugliness. There's no amount of schmoop or gay panic that can redeem that at a D/C fic. And the first wasn't that great, but then just got gross, with the implied character death and the unwanted (even by Dean) Wincest.

Huh. Normally I quite like the author of the first fic, bauble. I'm reading her Snow Queen fusion right now, and it's quite hauntingly beautiful. Just skimming the one you link to, it looks opaque.

As for the second? Welshiescribble and xlibrarianettex? HELLS NO. Not going near either one of those. Honestly, only kitty_alex's name scares me more up front (or maybe gedry for WTF DNW).

I don't know if I'm going to finish that big bang one. It's just...there's no there there.