Doesn't sound like retcon to me. Just muddy explanation. I totally buy that they think they explained it, but now they should deal with the fact that they completely didn't. I think that would be better than trying to cope in meta.
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§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 4:25:42 pm PDT #12287 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Morgana - Jul 27, 2010 4:59:20 pm PDT #12288 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Hmmmmm. I just saw a newly posted BigBang, and to be fair it says it's an AU. But it includes "Graphic physical and sexual abuse of a child...Dubcon, Noncon, Nonconsensual breathplay, Nonconsensual watersports, Electric shock, Violence towards a minor." And if that weren't enough to entice me, there's this: "I know next to nothing about the legal system. Likewise, law enforcement agencies. Likewise, modern medicine. All facts about these things in this story are quite wrong." Jared is the 14 year-old minor in question. I think I'll choose something else to spend the next several hours with.
P.M. Marc - Jul 27, 2010 5:08:55 pm PDT #12289 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
That said, I can't say the demon blood addiction as written was particularly convincing and Kripke's explanation of the Dumbo line doesn't make much sense to me.
His explanation was my fanwank of it, so. Apparently my fanwank was the intent?
It was clunky, however.
Marcia - Jul 27, 2010 5:10:28 pm PDT #12290 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert
I think I'll choose something else to spend the next several hours with.
I'm a live-and-let-live kinda gal, but... wow. ::boggles:: Mind if I join you, Morgana?
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 5:12:46 pm PDT #12291 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dear lord. To counter that, maybe a little, I just read an AU (non big bang) where the author also said she didn't know what she was talking about. Unsaid, a PG-13 D/C AU by liadan14, where Dean is deaf and Castiel is mute. I can't vouch for any accuracy about living with deafness, but the emotions are so charming and sweet that I at least hope for veracity.
Juliebird - Jul 27, 2010 5:19:43 pm PDT #12292 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Ooh, I really liked Unsaid.
Morgana - Jul 27, 2010 5:36:46 pm PDT #12293 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Mind if I join you, Morgana?
Not at all. It's a nice soft cushy bench with lots of pillows and regular visits by waiters who wander by with iced tea and cookies.
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 5:44:06 pm PDT #12294 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Ugh. Is the assumption, then, that at least one of the pairings listed is performing the non-con on a minor? I know RPF readers, especially AU, are not thinking of people, but it's like the slavery AUs for me. I just...I can't even read the summary comfortably.
Morgana - Jul 27, 2010 6:00:23 pm PDT #12295 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
ita, that would be my assumption, that either Richard Speight or Frederic Lehne possibly both are involved in non-con with the minor version of Jared. And yeah, that hits my squick meter really, really high.
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 6:03:55 pm PDT #12296 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
::shudder::
I just want to drown myself in schmoop. I wouldn't be reading that if it were set inside the show universe, but putting real people's names on it just wigs me out more.