I don't think I realized that Dean calls Hendricksen "Victor" in Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester. It seems so ... intimate.

They did, in the end.

Eh, that was an angel trick to force their hand. I don't think it's the same as dying without intervention.

But if God decides who goes to Heaven and who doesn't, why would he keep Sam out? As of AHBL, he hadn't chosen to drink demon blood.

Dean is the king of broyay intimacy. Bless him.

Oh, I meant the demon blood from babyhood.

I know--but God's been a good guy. Which is why I said "chosen." I can see him being damned for the sin of pride when he decided that the only way to save the world was to drink it, but having it dripped into his mouth as a baby? Kinda cruel barrier to the Elysian fields.

I meant the demon blood from babyhood.

And here's a biology question to shelve next to the theology one. When Sam's spleen broke down his old blood cells, what happened to the demon blood? Is it spleen resistant? Or would the demon blood cells be broken down like all the others? And if broken down, what happens to any elements particular to its demonic nature? Did Sam end up with a demon spleen? (And would "Demon Spleen" make a good death metal band name?) Would the demonic end up circulating through the lymphatic system, like a really non-Hodgkin's lymphoma?

Could I over-think this any more?

having it dripped into his mouth as a baby? Kinda cruel barrier to the Elysian fields.

Some branches of Christianity have suggested that unbaptized infants end up in hell, so this approach to damnation wouldn't be unheard-of.

I'm only playing with the idea for fic purposes, remember. I'm not sure God would deny Sam heaven at all, but it's hard to make it all work in my head when Sam and Dean's "chosen" status makes Azazel's last man standing plan really dumb.

Although I guess for *his* purposes, if not for Lucifer's, it made sense to have a spare for the heir.

this approach to damnation wouldn't be unheard-of.

But it doesn't gibe with the Godness in Show we've seen so far, if he's the one making the call. Joshua gave me the impression that it was Him that was making the decision to resurrect them each time they died, and that He was responsible for their sojourns in Heaven each time, not Zackie-pooh.

He was responsible for their sojourns in Heaven each time, not Zackie-pooh.

So you think Zachariah just horned in on their last trip, and decided to use it to his advantage?

So you think Zachariah just horned in on their last trip, and decided to use it to his advantage?

Yeah. You think Zach brought them to Heaven each time and wiped their memories?