Oh, THAT guy. Got it. Thank you.

Sensitive New Age Guy. The kind who will brew you tea to help with your menses. And who will use that word. And who will expect accolade upon accolade (and possible fellatio, though he'd never ask you, he'd just hint) for the simple act of brewing the tea.

Juliana, that may be the most astute and most elegant encapsulation of that particular phenomenon I have ever seen. Brava!

I confess, I've sought and acquired my share of this breed, thinking that guy was truly my 'type.' Now that I'm so much older and presumably wiser, I'm all about the "man's man."

How would you describe him? (I know which SPN character I'd categorize as such, just wondering what you think.)

Now that I'm so much older and presumably wiser, I'm all about the "man's man."

I have never wanted a SNAG. I don't want a cocker spaniel. I want someone who can argue without getting into a fight, who can change the oil in my car. Someone who knows how to use a gun, although he might not keep ome in the house. Someone who tries to avoid thr barfight, but once he's in it, gets in some good damn licks. Likes beer or whiskey or scotch, and won't press them on me. He can figure out how to get my bookshelves together and then reads most of the books on 'em. Likes to look at the bosom and eat of the meat, but doesn't care if other choose not to. Understands I do not need rescue, but go to the mat if I should be mistaken and ever actually need it. Someone with a wicked sense of humor. Someone who likes women, likes men and likes animals. Someone who can comfort a crying child or woman without losing his shit or being patronizing and dismissive.

bonny, I think you're thinking of Dean (I think), but I am Mal's bitch.

but I am Mal's bitch.

And I? Am Erin's.

I know which SPN character I'd categorize as such, just wondering what you think.

Sounds like John Winchester to me.

Don't take me wrong: I think Dean is awesome, but John isn't nearly as conscious of his manhood as Dean is, which is in many ways more attractive.

Don't take me wrong: I think Dean is awesome, but John isn't nearly as conscious of his manhood as Dean is, which is in many ways more attractive.

That is very well put. For some reason, it makes me think of John as we saw him in 'Home.'

but I am Mal's bitch.

And I? Am Erin's.

I'm juliana's.

Don't take me wrong: I think Dean is awesome, but John isn't nearly as conscious of his manhood as Dean is, which is in many ways more attractive

This is very well put, and I agree. I was trying to read bonny's mind. Dean is very attractive, but give him about 10 more years, and the sexy might make my brain explode.

EDIT: And yay! I have a bitch!!

Are we daisy-chaining? This make me Cindy's? I'm good with that.

It really sounded like John to me, too. At least a John who hadn't bunkered down the last twenty years.

The man's man who interests me accepts and expects a woman to take care of herself--and him, if he needs it. And likewise to accept a hand if she needs it. A partner, with her own skills that hopefully mesh with his to make them a more effective unit. No crybabying, not from either of them. Each of them pulling their own weight, and more at times, when necessary. Adults, I guess is what I'm saying. Of course a man's man deserves, and most of the time wants, a woman who knows who she is and isn't afraid to be herself, without all the girly games. And John would seem to fit that description.

Dean's getting there, but he's not there yet. Sam still wants to be the SNAG white knight, I think. ETA: Or still thinks that's what he needs to be. Underneath the cultured SNAGiness, he's probably a man's man with a heavy dominant streak, coupled with that impulse to white knightery. Sam would want a pretty princess, but one who knew how to use a variety of weapons as well as enjoy bubble baths and pedicures.

Sensitive New Age Guy. The kind who will brew you tea to help with your menses. And who will use that word. And who will expect accolade upon accolade (and possible fellatio, though he'd never ask you, he'd just hint) for the simple act of brewing the tea.

Perfect. Absolutely perfect.