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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Jul 07, 2010 7:43:48 am PDT #11603 of 30002
Because books.

I always try to remember this is the deepest I've ever dived into fic -- with Buffy I only ever read a handful of linked stories. So to find whole comms dedicated to, say, the Winchesters going down on girls! Or gender-switching! Or threesomes! Kind of surprising.

And yeah, you and me both on the vanilla. As much porn as I've written in fic, there's no way I could ever sign up for kink bingo because I could never write for half the squares/kinks listed.

Then I remember the good old days when writing a het blow job in romance was daring, and I sigh.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2010 8:05:34 am PDT #11604 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't even read most of the prompts. I know, live and let lust, it's just fantasy, but PEOPLE. WHAT IS IN YOUR HEAD? PLEASE LET IT STAY FANTASY.


Amy - Jul 07, 2010 8:08:45 am PDT #11605 of 30002
Because books.

My problem is, you want to do that in the privacy of your own home? Good for you! But ... Dean would never do that! And Sam would never do that!

And then I get squicked and a little irked, and then I have to laugh at myself because they're fictional characters in the first place, and safe sane and consensual and all that, but still.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2010 8:15:59 am PDT #11606 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Do other fandoms have this much kink?

I'd say at its peak in March, Winter Games fandom had more. They had to branch the original meme out by sport.

To be fair, they had the Weir and the Ohno.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2010 9:03:36 am PDT #11607 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd say at its peak in March, Winter Games fandom had more

Oh Em Gee.

they're fictional characters in the first place, and safe sane and consensual

They are fictional, but...no, I need to back off judging. If it's not actually happening it's okay. I will just look at people funny from the privacy of my own computer.


ehab - Jul 07, 2010 9:23:16 am PDT #11608 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

The kink memes strike me as straight up porn and carry with them all the problematic issues that exist with any type of porn.

I am intrigued about whether fandom feels these memes are fundamentally different from any other types of porn?


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2010 9:33:59 am PDT #11609 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am intrigued about whether fandom feels these memes are fundamentally different from any other types of porn?

The requests that stick in my mind are a) one about someone slicing off bits of their peen and feeding it to someone else b) numerous Weechester sex slave ones and c) stuff with JP and his dogs.

It's a lot where people don't want to own up to asking, or own up to writing.

It's not all like that, and a lot of the more strange ones don't get filled, but there's enough that my eyebrows welded themselves to my hairline for my entire skim.

And I keep hearing that Harry Potter fandom is kinkier.


ehab - Jul 07, 2010 9:41:11 am PDT #11610 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I definitely did not need to know the details...

I need some cleansing good gen fic.


Amy - Jul 07, 2010 9:43:04 am PDT #11611 of 30002
Because books.

one about someone slicing off bits of their peen and feeding it to someone else

Oh dear. By which I mean, GOOD GOD RUN AWAY.

I think everyone is fully aware that it's porn, and the kink memes are pretty specifically written to fulfill the same purpose any kind of porn does. Which I don't have a problem with, really. It's text, for one -- no one is being forced into this against their will, or only there because they did have a horrible, abusive childhood, etc.

But that doesn't mean I want to read a lot of it. I've got kinks like anybody, but the depth and breadth of some of the stuff I've encountered in fandom has been ... educational.

I think the best writers do keep the characters *in* character, but there are plenty of people out there who are writing kinks for their own enjoyment and simply slapping Sam and Dean's names and faces on the people doing ... whatever.


ehab - Jul 07, 2010 9:57:13 am PDT #11612 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

But that doesn't mean I want to read a lot of it. I've got kinks like anybody, but the depth and breadth of some of the stuff I've encountered in fandom has been ... educational.

This.

I was in college in the mid-80's and the backlash against porn in women's studies was severe. Porn was a male bastion and the movement was toward eradicating the Hustlers and Penthouses of the day. I think back on that time now and wonder if they could have ever imagined that porn would simply expand to include women but never diminish in size or breadth.