I'd say at its peak in March, Winter Games fandom had more

Oh Em Gee.

they're fictional characters in the first place, and safe sane and consensual

They are fictional, but...no, I need to back off judging. If it's not actually happening it's okay. I will just look at people funny from the privacy of my own computer.

The kink memes strike me as straight up porn and carry with them all the problematic issues that exist with any type of porn.

I am intrigued about whether fandom feels these memes are fundamentally different from any other types of porn?

I am intrigued about whether fandom feels these memes are fundamentally different from any other types of porn?

The requests that stick in my mind are a) one about someone slicing off bits of their peen and feeding it to someone else b) numerous Weechester sex slave ones and c) stuff with JP and his dogs.

It's a lot where people don't want to own up to asking, or own up to writing.

It's not all like that, and a lot of the more strange ones don't get filled, but there's enough that my eyebrows welded themselves to my hairline for my entire skim.

And I keep hearing that Harry Potter fandom is kinkier.

I definitely did not need to know the details...

I need some cleansing good gen fic.

one about someone slicing off bits of their peen and feeding it to someone else

Oh dear. By which I mean, GOOD GOD RUN AWAY.

I think everyone is fully aware that it's porn, and the kink memes are pretty specifically written to fulfill the same purpose any kind of porn does. Which I don't have a problem with, really. It's text, for one -- no one is being forced into this against their will, or only there because they did have a horrible, abusive childhood, etc.

But that doesn't mean I want to read a lot of it. I've got kinks like anybody, but the depth and breadth of some of the stuff I've encountered in fandom has been ... educational.

I think the best writers do keep the characters *in* character, but there are plenty of people out there who are writing kinks for their own enjoyment and simply slapping Sam and Dean's names and faces on the people doing ... whatever.

But that doesn't mean I want to read a lot of it. I've got kinks like anybody, but the depth and breadth of some of the stuff I've encountered in fandom has been ... educational.

This.

I was in college in the mid-80's and the backlash against porn in women's studies was severe. Porn was a male bastion and the movement was toward eradicating the Hustlers and Penthouses of the day. I think back on that time now and wonder if they could have ever imagined that porn would simply expand to include women but never diminish in size or breadth.

going down on girls

How is that kink? I mean it would not make sense for gay men, but for anyone who has sex with women .... ?(Or do they mean "girls" as in too-young as opposed to going down on women?)

I usually figure that some of the REALLY out there requests are people who just come up with the wackiest/most out there/oddest thing they can think of, just to see if someone will write it.

(In the long run there's probably some of that, but less than I think.)

It's like the Star Trek kink meme. For some reason, it devolved into a string of requests (and fills) for Sulu/Chekov involved in watersports. Definitely not my kink. And all the better writers had taken their toys and gone home by the time it got to those, so I don't feel I missed anything. Even if it's a kink I'm not into, if the writer is sufficiently skilled enough to make it believable for the characters, I'll read it.

I'm still a delicate flower. There's stuff that doesn't interest me, and there's stuff that out and out horrifies me, and I don't care how artistically it's written, I don't want it in my head. Even the prompts are too much.

Sometimes it makes me feel like a judgey person, but if I can't have my brain as a safe haven, where is?