Oh crap, I completely forgot about the Dr. Sexy stuff. Duh.
Jeez, don't get all Movie of the Week. I was just too cheap to buy you a real present.
Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Amy - Jun 22, 2010 5:43:17 pm PDT #11075 of 30002
Because books.
Cass - Jun 22, 2010 6:03:41 pm PDT #11076 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Dean's still holding a murderous grudge against the Trickster, and it's Sam who's pushing for teaming up with him and letting bygones be bygones.
I think I still feel betrayed that Bela shot Sam and then la la la things were fine between her and the boys.
Clearly they (or the writers) forgive more easily than I do.
§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 6:10:08 pm PDT #11077 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Slide down that Kinsey scale, Dean. There's an angel waiting for you.
I have little issue with Sam wanting Gabriel's help to battle Lucifer. It's not the same thing as being friends with him. Sam was willing to sacrifice a virgin in Jus In Bello. He's that guy.
HOWEVER, sexy dreams about Bela? Nuhuh. They were just stupid about that. Yeah, I was one of the fans spitting at Bela, but really, I was screaming at the boys to not trust Bela. Every time she showed up, Sam and Dean grabbed the Idiot Ball, and I hated what that did to the plot. So I wasn't sad to see her go. She didn't do anything for my enjoyment. Their interaction could totally have been written sensically.
Morgana - Jun 22, 2010 6:21:02 pm PDT #11078 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Sam was willing to sacrifice a virgin in Jus In Bello. He's that guy.
Hey, hey, hey -- she volunteered to go under the knife, remember.
§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 6:37:14 pm PDT #11079 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's still a pretty hard core choice to make. He's obviously not needing everything to be fluffy puppies and rainbows in order to get good done, from long time.
Amy - Jun 22, 2010 6:56:52 pm PDT #11080 of 30002
Because books.
I also think Sam was willing to do it before she offered, though.
Sam became the end game player, and Dean started seeing more shades of gray as the series progressed.
Morgana - Jun 22, 2010 7:00:22 pm PDT #11081 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Oh no, particularly ever since they were facing down Dean's yearlong deadline, he became brutally pragmatic.
Cass - Jun 22, 2010 7:30:27 pm PDT #11082 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I'm terribly shades of gray. I think that if you can sacrifice one to save many, it's a valid choice. Especially because if you try to be ethically above it all and not consider it, usually a whole lot more people die. Including your virgin.
Yeah, I loathed Bela. It was just bad writing and plotting. I would like there to be more awesome women on the show though.
Laga - Jun 22, 2010 7:36:43 pm PDT #11083 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one.
§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 7:55:08 pm PDT #11084 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not judging Sam's choice--just saying that asking Gabriel's help is little considering virgin sacrifice was palatable to him before the end of the world was on the line. However, it's still a far cry from him sitting down and sharing a brew with him. It's just what needs to be done to win the war.