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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Jun 11, 2010 12:02:29 pm PDT #10646 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I think it's sort of funny that the writers have an idea of how fans relate to the show, the characters, certain canon events, and canon customs and habits they helped to create. And then how they can be so blind or indifferent to totemic things like the impala or John's journal, or Dean's ring, the Samulet, Sam's jelly bracelet, Dean's skull bead bracelet.

They apparently have little to no idea of how details amplify and illuminate the characters they write, do they? Jensen was so dismissive of the ring in LA--"It was beat up, and I cut my hand on it a couple of times. It was just time for it to go."

Well okay, I can certainly appreciate the practical reasons, but come on. The guy's been wearing that ring since we've known him. Give us a single line, at least to explain why he's stopped wearing it. The bead bracelet replaced the elephant hair ones they cut off Dean in IMToD at the hospital. Through ectoplasm and being thrown into walls, smoked and tossed around by demons and even freakin hell Dean wore that bracelet and ring. And now they just...disappear? Without a line or a word of explanation? Let alone the amulet which fans asked and wondered about for two and a half seasons, until they built an episode around it and the relationship it symbolized? The one thing Sam couldn't bear to bury with Dean, and wore on his own person until he could return it? The god-finder that Dean surrendered only reluctantly to a heavenly messenger? Even if it was burnt out as a tool, even if the devotion it symbolized had been tattered and tarnished for Dean, obviously they had not for Sam. And it would have made all the sense in the world for Sam to retrieve it, to keep it against the possibility of returning it to Dean sometime when it would mean something again.

I know there have been Big Doings at the ranch. But Winchesters don't have a lot of possessions. Those they keep have multiple utility and deep meaning. Casting them aside merits--requires--a word of explanation. I don't understand how the writers don't get that.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2010 12:08:16 pm PDT #10647 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure how you could have seen the same season finale I did and call them indifferent to the totemic nature of the Impala, honestly. They were pretty explicit.

I've read that the writers said that they're moving past what the amulet represents, so I feel they know damned well what they've created. I'm just scared about what that means.

As for the rest of the jewelry, I don't have a vocal care. I miss the ring because it looked nice, and I was kinda curious to see if there was payoff or deep meta, but jelly bracelets? I don't think most people are noticing things like that.


Toddson - Jun 11, 2010 12:09:22 pm PDT #10648 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I don't think most people are noticing things like that.

do you know us?


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2010 12:10:01 pm PDT #10649 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

do you know us?

When have we ever been most people?


Toddson - Jun 11, 2010 12:16:08 pm PDT #10650 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

ah ... I was thinking about most people on this board. Although, consider the SPN fandom ....


Theresa - Jun 11, 2010 12:16:38 pm PDT #10651 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

do you know us?

You owe me a new keyboard.

Voting for

  • perdition


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2010 12:18:32 pm PDT #10652 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Although, consider the SPN fandom ....

Still, not most of the viewers.

Honestly, Show is very indulgent of the obsessive. But explaining why a character decides to stop wearing a bracelet? I stop wearing jewelry all the time and there's no story. We don't follow the boys to the loo either.


Theresa - Jun 11, 2010 12:24:06 pm PDT #10653 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

We don't follow the boys to the loo either.

Only since the restraining order.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2010 12:25:35 pm PDT #10654 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're why we can't have nice things.


Theresa - Jun 11, 2010 12:26:36 pm PDT #10655 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

True.