Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Jun 11, 2010 12:26:36 pm PDT #10655 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

True.


Toddson - Jun 11, 2010 12:54:00 pm PDT #10656 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

OK, now you owe me a new keyboard.


Amy - Jun 11, 2010 12:59:08 pm PDT #10657 of 30002
Because books.

I have to side with ita on the Impala, especially. She saved the world as much as the yellow crayon Dean did in 5.22.

I've read that the writers said that they're moving past what the amulet represents, so I feel they know damned well what they've created. I'm just scared about what that means.

And I think for Dean taking something Sam had meant for John meant really facing his role as the father figure Sam *could* count on.

But we know where Dean's idol worship of John got him. And we know how the boys have fought to move past the roles they established as kids. So to me, as horrible as that scene was, I'm just shorthanding it into "putting away childish things". And that now, in S6, they can start from a new point and find some kind of balance as equals.

Meanwhile, I'll just be over here with my hands over my ears singing, "La la la la la ..."


Beverly - Jun 11, 2010 12:59:41 pm PDT #10658 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Hee!

Okay, I freely admit my obsession with trivia and minutia. But to me it's sort of like changing Batman's uniform. If a thing has been consistent (bracelet, ring) for the entire time a character has been in the public view, changing it needs at least a token explanation.

You know. Or not.


Beverly - Jun 11, 2010 1:03:31 pm PDT #10659 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I need to quickly agree with ita and Amy about the Impala--her role was only confirmed by the finale. And I can certainly agree with the reasoning about the amulet, and try to believe show figured fans were smart enough to figure that out.

A nod to Dean divesting himself of talismans he'd worn as touchstones, to ground him--the bracelet and ring--as he prepared to accept Michael would have been nice, though. Either taking them off onscreen, or a line about "leaving that behind".

I'm done now. At least out loud.


Toddson - Jun 11, 2010 1:03:37 pm PDT #10660 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

someone linked to "Honk" up above (I'm catching up after a long absence, so excuse me if this has been brought up) ... does this qualify as autoerotica?


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2010 1:05:04 pm PDT #10661 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's sort of like changing Batman's uniform

He's grey. He's blue. He has nipples. His head doesn't turn. His belt is yellow. He shines. He's matte. The height of his ears. The colour of his logo...

The small things about Batman's costume change all the time. And I'm going to come down on the side of jelly bracelets being smaller than the colour of Batman's outfit.

eta:

A nod to Dean divesting himself of talismans he'd worn as touchstones, to ground him--the bracelet and ring

You've decided the ring is a talisman. The text has never acknowledged that. To him it was apparently just a bottle opener.


Beverly - Jun 11, 2010 1:05:05 pm PDT #10662 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

grooooaaannnn

Hee!


Beverly - Jun 11, 2010 1:06:22 pm PDT #10663 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh yeah, jelly is far less important than the skully one. Mostly because I know the meta and it never seemed much a part of Sam, anyway. It was always Jared's.


Amy - Jun 11, 2010 1:09:54 pm PDT #10664 of 30002
Because books.

Yeah, I think the only talisman was the amulet -- we saw it in Skin, even, when he snatched it back from the shapeshifter.

The bracelets never seemed to mean much, other than that I liked how they looked on him.