No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 23, 2008 8:39:03 am PST #7655 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It is the emotional, cultural binding that matters to them as much as the legal status.

But you can do that now, without legal status. I have been to several non-legal weddings that were just as emotional and binding than signing a piece of paper from the state.

I know some odd people. Of non-legal straight weddings I've been to, one was a couple who didn't want The Man in their relationship, one was a bride who was scared of needles so got legally married in New York months before their wedding in MA, one was a couple who got legally married in MA for political purposes and then had a wedding in NY.


Theresa - Dec 23, 2008 8:41:27 am PST #7656 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Sweet potato latkes! That does sound really good. I've had latkes two days in a row and suddenly remember why I feel so full when visiting family.


Shir - Dec 23, 2008 8:42:39 am PST #7657 of 10002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I think only in the US.

Here, by the way, the name is kusbara (both in Hebrew and Arabic).


Barb - Dec 23, 2008 8:46:00 am PST #7658 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

Yes! Didn't know it has another name in the fresh form.

I think only in the US.

Throughout Latin America too. I never remember that it's known as coriander.

Grocery shopping has been achieved. Couldn't decide between mashed potatoes, stuffing, or arroz con frijoles, so I got the makings for all and I'll see what my mood is on Thursday.

And because I'm trying to be good in preparation for the gorgefest, I had a salad with grilled chicken for lunch. Go me.


DavidS - Dec 23, 2008 8:47:06 am PST #7659 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But you can do that now, without legal status. I have been to several non-legal weddings that were just as emotional and binding than signing a piece of paper from the state.

I don't think it's the same. Getting married is not just a private commitment but a public gesture. So it becomes, in part, about your status in the community. About how big a circle you can draw around your life. Is the gesture only going to encompass part of your life? I am a gay person who has a commitment ceremony within the gay community and amongst my accepting friends and family. Or is it to be fully enfranchised in your culture. The distinction of the latter is significant.


Jesse - Dec 23, 2008 8:50:44 am PST #7660 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Throughout Latin America too.

I meant in English, and actually almost said that. Or are there two names for fresh and dried coriander in Latin America?

I don't think it's the same. Getting married is not just a private commitment but a public gesture. So it becomes, in part, about your status in the community. About how big a circle you can draw around your life. Is the gesture only going to encompass part of your life? I am a gay person who has a commitment ceremony within the gay community and amongst my accepting friends and family. Or is it to be fully enfranchised in your culture. The distinction of the latter is significant.

Wait, that was my point! I guess what I'm saying is the legality is hugely important, and the difference between what we were saying is the definition of culture.


Barb - Dec 23, 2008 8:52:30 am PST #7661 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

I meant in English, and actually almost said that. Or are there two names for fresh and dried coriander in Latin America?

I've only ever known it as cilantro. And actually didn't know it existed as a dried ingredient until I went to college.


Cashmere - Dec 23, 2008 8:54:34 am PST #7662 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I got 70%.

I got 72%, but I guessed on a lot of them.

I got 76%.

Still haven't done latkes. But I'm going to shred the potatoes and make them for dinner.


amych - Dec 23, 2008 8:55:35 am PST #7663 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

fresh and dried coriander

The US different names are for the leaves and seeds, not for fresh vs. dried -- I'm not sure anyone does dry cilantro, because, why, but I'm neurotically compelled to fix the distinction...


beth b - Dec 23, 2008 8:55:37 am PST #7664 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Getting married is not just a private commitment but a public gesture. So it becomes, in part, about your status in the community.

my wedding ceremony was very private. As in, it involved no one in our community. I feel that our commitment to each other is private and personal. The reason for making it legal was strictly to protect each other