And how badly do we need to reinforce the idea that foreign policy belongs to the conservatives? I mean, seriously. Why would you do that?

Yes, thank you.

Colin Powell's well and good, but there are plenty of people the Dems can tap who are better.

They're not as widely known right now because they've been out of power for eight years.

Powell might've been a voice of reason and integrity within the context of the Bush administration but I haven't seen any evidence of his absolute mastery of diplomacy or statecraft or strategy.

Fuck it. I want the people that Clinton had running FEMA back running FEMA. The Republicans had a majority in Congress and the White House and they fucked things up mightily. When Clinton left office we had a freakin' surplus. Dems were better at diplomacy, foreign affairs finance and were better for business.

Ok, why am I even bothering to loading election results?! All I have to do is refresh Natter.

That's my plan.

Ha! That's why I just came here rather than going to any of the news sites.

OMG, I know it'll never last this way, but with 1% reporting in Florida, the MSNBC map read Obama 48%, McCain 34%.

Oh, frabjous day... (or moment).

VT goes to Obama. Are we shocked, or are we very shocked?

Well, based on the Wal-mart/Starbucks ratio...

VT goes to Obama. Are we shocked, or are we very shocked?

I'm not shocked, but curiious. They're showing this result with, do I have this right, no precincts counted? I mean yeah, you pretty much could've called it a month ago, but on what are they basing it? Exit polls?

CNN says exit polls. The Times isn't calling anyone yet, and I am in love with their zoom-in-by-county map.

what are they basing it? Exit polls?

Ben & Jerry's sales.

CBS appears to be calling West Virginia for McCain. No big surprise there, though again without hard numbers to support it.