Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Oct 08, 2008 8:52:46 am PDT #3359 of 10001
hip deep in pie

The glowing jellyfish need more funding to get their chemistry program recognized.


bon bon - Oct 08, 2008 8:59:02 am PDT #3360 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's still reasonably effective, if you're exclusively BF and the kid's not on solids yet. I mean, it seriously lowers the chances of a knock up.

Right. It's an evolutionary adaptation -- not perfect, but not mythical.


flea - Oct 08, 2008 9:04:43 am PDT #3361 of 10001
information libertarian

One of the things I heard most often after giving birth, while still in the hospital, was "what are you going to do for birth control"? My midwife even said, "I have people turn up pregnant at their 6-week postpartum checkup all the time. Don't let it be you." Needless to say I didn't have sex until my first was, like 6 months old, for one reason and another (like, 'ow,' and 'I am so fucking tired.')

I do know a woman who got pregnant right away, while breastfeeding, and it was TWINS. She had a 10 month old and newborn twins. And a live-in mother-in-law, thank god.


JZ - Oct 08, 2008 9:07:53 am PDT #3362 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The cynical part of me says "They aren't getting past their prejudices because they've gotten to know Obama. They're getting past their prejudices because when somebody knows if it's the blue wire or the red wire to cut when disarming the bomb in the room, you don't give a rat's fuckhole what color they are."

ITA, but I also think the effect Trudy describes has a decent chance of happening if he's elected--some racists may pull the lever/punch the chad/fill in the bubble/touch the That One box on the shiny screen/what have you just to disarm the bomb, but in the coming months and years, for at least some of them, seeing Obama calm and mature and competent on their TV screens over and over, un-fussily disarming one bomb after another, may make a palpable difference.

I am possibly suffering a catastrophic cynicism deficit. I'm sure my levels will be corrected by mid-afternoon.

Re Jamie-Lynn, I'm just in awe that anyone in the middle of breastfeeding, usually entailing every 3 hours round-the-clock feeds at this age, would have the mental or physical energy to even think about sex.


msbelle - Oct 08, 2008 9:10:01 am PDT #3363 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Is there any proof she is dealing with the round the clock feeds, or that the baby is only on breast milk? I would seriously doubt both of those.


Aims - Oct 08, 2008 9:11:52 am PDT #3364 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Not to mention that if she's two months gone like the article alleges, and the newborn is 3 months old, she was doing it before her 6 week checkup. Which, like JZ, and several other moms here, sex was the absolute last thing on my mind when Em was 4 weeks old.

(Still really sorry, honey.)


Aims - Oct 08, 2008 9:12:50 am PDT #3365 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Is there any proof she is dealing with the round the clock feeds, or that the baby is only on breast milk? I would seriously doubt both of those.

As do I. Which makes her just that much less smart.


Jessica - Oct 08, 2008 9:13:13 am PDT #3366 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Needless to say I didn't have sex until my first was, like 6 months old, for one reason and another (like, 'ow,' and 'I am so fucking tired.')

Yeah, apart from the fact that my period came back after 4 months, my main method of birth control while I was breastfeeding was TOTAL LACK OF SEX.


Steph L. - Oct 08, 2008 9:13:54 am PDT #3367 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

When I was out at lunch, I saw my first (handmade) "Hillary Democrat for McCain" yard sign. It was a Hillary yard sign from the primaries on top, with posterboard attached to it so that the person could write "Democrat for," all attached above a McCain yard sign.

So apparently the demographic of I'm-so-pissed-over-[no idea what]-that-I'm-willing-to-vote-for-the-candidate-who-stands-for-the-exact-opposite-of-my-first-choice's-platform is not a myth.

Or, at least, there's 1.


Aims - Oct 08, 2008 9:14:08 am PDT #3368 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

feels better knowing she wasn't the only one

er...not the only new mom who didn't have sex right after, not the only Hillary Democrat for McCain. Ptui.