You know, it's funny. We went to war never looking to come back, but it's the real world I couldn't survive.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:34 am PDT #7345 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Women, anyway. I don't think dudes have this problem as much.

Yeah, probably. I think it's the combination of many men's items being labeled with measurements and most men's clothes not fitting that precisely. I imagine the guy in the skinny suit has to find just the right skinny suit, you know? Pleated khakis, nsm.


Calli - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:44 am PDT #7346 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was appalled (yet not surprised) that McCain got more applause for bashing Obama and glossing over the Code Pink protesters than he did for his POW story, which IMO is a really moving story. But he got tepid applause throughout the whole thing,

Reruns usually get poorer ratings than premieres.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:48 am PDT #7347 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

it didn't have anything in it that promised his supporters how they would each get tax breaks and their own personal Muslim to pummel.

OMG, Teppy, brilliant.


Burrell - Sep 05, 2008 9:48:03 am PDT #7348 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't think it is the same. Models have smaller boobs, as do tons of celebrities who are not thought of as ugly.

Some models have larger boobs, some smaller. In the 80s, larger and artificial was quite in fashion. And tons of celebrities have huge lovely breasts and are quite famous for them. Salma Hayek for goodness sake! Sorry, never gonna convince me they're considered unattractive.

But I didn't mean to imply that even famous women who are flat are considered unattractive, rather that it was made very clear to me in my teens that my chest was something to work against in my desire to fashion myself as pretty.

Or maybe I just listened to Chorus Line too much: "Dance 10, looks 3, and I'm still on unemployment..." and "Different is nice but it sure isn't pretty, and pretty is what it's about. I never knew anyone who was different who couldn't figure that out."


SailAweigh - Sep 05, 2008 9:48:17 am PDT #7349 of 10003
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

It was much simpler when Victoria's Secret fit.

I don't think I've been able to wear a VS bra in close to 10 years, and that was when I was wearing a 34/36B. They are just plain ill-fitting and miss-sized.

I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

Heck, yeah. I just get tired of trying after a while. If I find one of something that fits, I end up buying 3-4 of them, just to make sure I have enough to last for a while. My daughter used to complain that my wardrobe was boring because it all looked the same. Didn't bother me, I just accessorized a lot.


Calli - Sep 05, 2008 9:49:21 am PDT #7350 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Some day I'll be able to afford button-front shirts tailored to my measurements. That will be a nice day.


Jesse - Sep 05, 2008 9:50:03 am PDT #7351 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, from my own experience, the people who REALLY can't find anything to wear are like size 14-16 -- bigger than many "regular" stores carry, but still smaller than plus. At least, that was my experience shopping when I was busting out of my size 14 wardrobe. I couldn't shop anywhere!


Steph L. - Sep 05, 2008 9:51:06 am PDT #7352 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

it didn't have anything in it that promised his supporters how they would each get tax breaks and their own personal Muslim to pummel.

OMG, Teppy, brilliant.

That was the gist (is it "jist"? I never know) of last night, though, wasn't it? "I will continue to give the corporations you own the enormous tax breaks they're already getting!!! Fuck your workers!!!" He came thisclose to using the phrase "trickle down."

And the appalling video: "Vote McCain and you will ALL get to avenge 9/11, personally, with your bare hands!!!"


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2008 9:52:16 am PDT #7353 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"Different is nice but it sure isn't pretty, and pretty is what it's about. I never knew anyone who was different who couldn't figure that out."

But everyone's different...


Nora Deirdre - Sep 05, 2008 9:53:02 am PDT #7354 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

That was the gist (is it "jist"? I never know) of last night, though, wasn't it?

I didn't watch, because, well, I can't. This political stuff seriously makes me itch. Therefore I do appreciate your excellent sound bites!

Also, it's "gist."