Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Sep 05, 2008 9:38:15 am PDT #7335 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

So, hmm, this is interesting. Change the perceived as slutty to perceived as ugly and undesirable and everything else stays the same (the problems with clothes, the inability to find a bra that fits, even the random grabbing of the tits). So maybe most of the annoyance is boob-related period.

I don't think it is the same. Models have smaller boobs, as do tons of celebrities who are not thought of as ugly.


Burrell - Sep 05, 2008 9:38:41 am PDT #7336 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Maybe it's just me, but while it looks like all they sell is A and B cups, they almost never ever fit me. I would go from VS to Macys to Nordo on a doomed quest every year. Maybe my breasts are just freakish and wrong, at least from a manufacturer's POV.


Calli - Sep 05, 2008 9:40:17 am PDT #7337 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I've found a ton of pretty & big bras. 38DD shouldn't be a problem at all! You just have to pay for them (or scour the sales racks). Try Nordstrom.

Hmmm. Worth a shot--I think there's a Nordstrom's in the mall near work. Thanks. I usually shop at Kohls.


Jesse - Sep 05, 2008 9:41:49 am PDT #7338 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Maybe it's just me, but while it looks like all they sell is A and B cups, they almost never ever fit me. I would go from VS to Macys to Nordo on a doomed quest every year. Maybe my breasts are just freakish and wrong, at least from a manufacturer's POV.

Nah, I kind of think that's mostly true for all women about everything that goes on our bodies. Every single woman on What Not To Wear talks about how X, Y, and Z makes it uniquely difficult for her to find clothes that fit. I think everyone always has to try on a million things.


§ ita § - Sep 05, 2008 9:42:59 am PDT #7339 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nordy's turned me on to the best fitting bras, but affording pretty ones is a completely different matter. It was much simpler when Victoria's Secret fit.


Daisy Jane - Sep 05, 2008 9:43:49 am PDT #7340 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Maybe my breasts are just freakish and wrong

This is definately something I think all women are made to feel.


Glamcookie - Sep 05, 2008 9:43:53 am PDT #7341 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

Women, anyway. I don't think dudes have this problem as much.


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2008 9:45:44 am PDT #7342 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Ah pretty bras.

I used to cry in Victoria's Secret (they're a bit better now). I called is "the store with bras for people who don't need bras."

And even when big bras are pretty to be effective they pretty much still have to be BIG -- wide shoulder straps, four maybe three hooks on the back band. I look at those whispy silk-ribbon-strapped one-hook numbers and sigh with longing.


Steph L. - Sep 05, 2008 9:45:52 am PDT #7343 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Actually, polling says the righties dig Palin, but the undecideds like Obama/ Biden. Especially women undecideds. So maybe it's not over yet.

And the righties would have voted McCain no matter who he picked. So, in my mind -- where I need to believe that the Moose Slayer isn't going to bring McCain any new votes -- this is still good.

Relatedly, I was appalled (yet not surprised) that McCain got more applause for bashing Obama and glossing over the Code Pink protesters than he did for his POW story, which IMO is a really moving story. But he got tepid applause throughout the whole thing, which I assume is because it didn't have anything in it that promised his supporters how they would each get tax breaks and their own personal Muslim to pummel.


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:30 am PDT #7344 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nah, I kind of think that's mostly true for all women about everything that goes on our bodies. Every single woman on What Not To Wear talks about how X, Y, and Z makes it uniquely difficult for her to find clothes that fit. I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

I learned this lesson very concretely when I went clothes shopping with Kat P once. I had a terrible time finding things big enough that didn't make me look sixty, she needed small things and was NOT going to the Junior's department.