Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.

'Serenity'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Glamcookie - Sep 05, 2008 9:43:53 am PDT #7341 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

Women, anyway. I don't think dudes have this problem as much.


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2008 9:45:44 am PDT #7342 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Ah pretty bras.

I used to cry in Victoria's Secret (they're a bit better now). I called is "the store with bras for people who don't need bras."

And even when big bras are pretty to be effective they pretty much still have to be BIG -- wide shoulder straps, four maybe three hooks on the back band. I look at those whispy silk-ribbon-strapped one-hook numbers and sigh with longing.


Steph L. - Sep 05, 2008 9:45:52 am PDT #7343 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Actually, polling says the righties dig Palin, but the undecideds like Obama/ Biden. Especially women undecideds. So maybe it's not over yet.

And the righties would have voted McCain no matter who he picked. So, in my mind -- where I need to believe that the Moose Slayer isn't going to bring McCain any new votes -- this is still good.

Relatedly, I was appalled (yet not surprised) that McCain got more applause for bashing Obama and glossing over the Code Pink protesters than he did for his POW story, which IMO is a really moving story. But he got tepid applause throughout the whole thing, which I assume is because it didn't have anything in it that promised his supporters how they would each get tax breaks and their own personal Muslim to pummel.


Trudy Booth - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:30 am PDT #7344 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nah, I kind of think that's mostly true for all women about everything that goes on our bodies. Every single woman on What Not To Wear talks about how X, Y, and Z makes it uniquely difficult for her to find clothes that fit. I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

I learned this lesson very concretely when I went clothes shopping with Kat P once. I had a terrible time finding things big enough that didn't make me look sixty, she needed small things and was NOT going to the Junior's department.


Jesse - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:34 am PDT #7345 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Women, anyway. I don't think dudes have this problem as much.

Yeah, probably. I think it's the combination of many men's items being labeled with measurements and most men's clothes not fitting that precisely. I imagine the guy in the skinny suit has to find just the right skinny suit, you know? Pleated khakis, nsm.


Calli - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:44 am PDT #7346 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was appalled (yet not surprised) that McCain got more applause for bashing Obama and glossing over the Code Pink protesters than he did for his POW story, which IMO is a really moving story. But he got tepid applause throughout the whole thing,

Reruns usually get poorer ratings than premieres.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 05, 2008 9:47:48 am PDT #7347 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

it didn't have anything in it that promised his supporters how they would each get tax breaks and their own personal Muslim to pummel.

OMG, Teppy, brilliant.


Burrell - Sep 05, 2008 9:48:03 am PDT #7348 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't think it is the same. Models have smaller boobs, as do tons of celebrities who are not thought of as ugly.

Some models have larger boobs, some smaller. In the 80s, larger and artificial was quite in fashion. And tons of celebrities have huge lovely breasts and are quite famous for them. Salma Hayek for goodness sake! Sorry, never gonna convince me they're considered unattractive.

But I didn't mean to imply that even famous women who are flat are considered unattractive, rather that it was made very clear to me in my teens that my chest was something to work against in my desire to fashion myself as pretty.

Or maybe I just listened to Chorus Line too much: "Dance 10, looks 3, and I'm still on unemployment..." and "Different is nice but it sure isn't pretty, and pretty is what it's about. I never knew anyone who was different who couldn't figure that out."


SailAweigh - Sep 05, 2008 9:48:17 am PDT #7349 of 10003
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

It was much simpler when Victoria's Secret fit.

I don't think I've been able to wear a VS bra in close to 10 years, and that was when I was wearing a 34/36B. They are just plain ill-fitting and miss-sized.

I think everyone always has to try on a million things.

Heck, yeah. I just get tired of trying after a while. If I find one of something that fits, I end up buying 3-4 of them, just to make sure I have enough to last for a while. My daughter used to complain that my wardrobe was boring because it all looked the same. Didn't bother me, I just accessorized a lot.


Calli - Sep 05, 2008 9:49:21 am PDT #7350 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Some day I'll be able to afford button-front shirts tailored to my measurements. That will be a nice day.