I do not pretend to understand the not-getting-up thing. The eating in the theater thing, I blame on the big touring shows, actually. Their target demographic is accustomed to going to the movies instead of the theater, and so the theaters started letting people bring refreshments in. It Bothers me greatly, but that's the current practice.

That's just nuts. The whole point of going to the theater is that it's a Big Deal! It costs a lot of money! You should dress up! And not have a goddamned snack! You should have a nice dinner beforehand!

Fucking people, I swear.

Kinda what I thought the article would say. I get so upset when I go to my parents' and see the same division of labor as when my dad worked. It infuriates me.

And I know it would infuriate me in a relationship of my own. My expectations are already too high on the childcare front when we are visiting family - I expect 100% coverage on the first few days and that is crazy.

It would be interesting to know if many men had house cleaning chores growing up. My brother did, but my cousins did not.

single moms

eh not that it is not hard, but - I just do less time intense stuff. mac's dinners are mostly things I can heat up in the microwave, I rarely make him from scratch meals. And I pay someone to come in and clean my house every other week - that is often the only cleaning that gets done save dishes and litter boxes.

So changing the subject slightly but keeping it in the domestic realm, what's my best option for a cupcake frosting that'll hold up decently in 85-ish degree weather?

Fondant.

Oo, must read the article. Sad to say, those averages don't surprise me at all.

I think in our house the housework as they define probably fits with their two working parents model. We don't share the housework equally, but then we also don't share the work of remodeling equally--I didn't do any work to put up the fence, or much in the way of the painting, etc. DH has done a HUGE amount there.

But we are more equitable in our sharing of the childcare than the average, at least based on that article. I do the bulk of the cooking and feeding and the dressing, he does the bulk of the bathing and the sunscreen slathering, and bedtime is usually shared.

Fucking people, I swear.

Yes. Plus it didn't help that one of the reasons the woman at the end of the row didn't get up was that she was on her iPhone, basically ignoring her young daughter that she was out with.

IO(catty)N, the daughter was dressed appropriately, but the woman was wearing a dress that went to about mid-thigh. Sigh.

Also, I highly recommended the VIP room at the Orpheum. You know, when your sister's paying for it.

also playing with a kid is work, not at all always fun, least of all when you don't want to.

The article makes a point that sharing equitably is not necesesarily the goal. That it depends on the values of your family etc.

Our day care person was all up in arms on K's behalf because for the past 3 days she has done pick up while I'm working. It was that way until K pointed out that I made enough in those 3 hours of work to pay for daycare for a week and a half.

I guess for us equality is important, but it's not day by day equality. It's more like, now that she isn't working and I am, she does the dishes four times as much. In a month or two, it will flop back to me doing it for a while. Then no one doing it.

It doesn’t include the fun stuff, like playing and reading and kissing good night.

My guess is they didn't want it to count as work if it was "fun" which is stupid given that lots of work is fun. And because AFAIAC playing/entertaining the kids all day long is a LOT of work! Speaking of which, I should go clean the kitchen so I can make some play dough.

also playing with a kid is work, not at all always fun, least of all when you don't want to.

I totally agree! Sometimes, I don't want to be the human jungle gym. Sometimes I'd like to just sit on the floor and check my email.

equality is important, but it's not day by day equality.

Yeah, this is how DH and I work. We try to make it average out by the end of the month, more or less.

they didn't want it to count as work if it was "fun" which is stupid given that lots of work is fun.

Right - it's like saying if there are parts of your job you love you shouldn't get paid for those hours.