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Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


juliana - Aug 05, 2008 7:43:09 am PDT #9842 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

~ma to your friend and her boy, Aimee.

Vortex, patience~ma for dealing with your mom. Heh.

Pretty rings, sj!

OMG so tired of telemarketers calling our office.


Susan W. - Aug 05, 2008 7:58:02 am PDT #9843 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Much ~ma to your friend and her baby, Aimee.

I love the rings, sj!

Question for the parenting hivemind: Does anyone have any book recommendations and/or advice for dealing with a strong-willed child? Because I keep having battles of wills with a 4-year-old and losing, and I don't want this to turn into a pattern. OTOH, I love that Annabel is strong-willed and stubborn and think it bodes well for the kind of woman she'll become someday. I just don't like it when the outcome of her stubbornness is that I'm late to work because she turned putting on her shoes into a battle royal this morning!

A friend recommended James Dobson's book on strong-willed children, but no way, no how am I going to take his advice on anything or buy anything that will enhance his royalty statement.


Vortex - Aug 05, 2008 8:03:21 am PDT #9844 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

hot in the ass

I love this phrase.

Me too. It really conveys how someone is excited/upset for no reason.

Also, I knew that my fellow grammar nazis would appreciate the worst written first line I've seen in a while:

Bruce E. Ivins, the government's leading suspect in the 2001 anthrax killings, borrowed from a bioweapons lab that fall freeze-drying equipment that allows scientists to quickly convert wet germ cultures into dry spores, according to sources briefed on the case.


flea - Aug 05, 2008 8:08:32 am PDT #9845 of 10001
information libertarian

I'd recommend Playful Parenting - I've found it to help me in thinking creatively to avoid the battles of wills in the first place (anticipate them, go another route). There are lots of books on Amazon about strong-willed or "spirited" (which is hippie-parent-speak for "pain in the ass") children, but I haven't read any.


beth b - Aug 05, 2008 8:11:05 am PDT #9846 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

nice rings

sending out the strong ma~~~


Barb - Aug 05, 2008 8:18:10 am PDT #9847 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Much ~ma to all what's need it.

Pretty, pretty rings, sj.

Am dealing with stupid people. Ask me how easily the euphoria of a great week away can be wiped out. *sigh*


DavidS - Aug 05, 2008 8:29:52 am PDT #9848 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've found it to help me in thinking creatively to avoid the battles of wills in the first place (anticipate them, go another route).

This is my modus operandi. See the conflicts ahead like big rocks in a fast moving river. Divert before you crash onto the rocks of strife.

The thing about a battle of wills with toddlers is: they have more energy and less discretion. Divert their attention and divert their mood.

I've also found it useful to have a lot of routines for transitions.


vw bug - Aug 05, 2008 8:40:05 am PDT #9849 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

A friend recommended James Dobson's book on strong-willed children, but no way, no how am I going to take his advice on anything or buy anything that will enhance his royalty statement.

My parents swear that this book kept them sane while I was between the ages of two and five. They used to joke it was written about me. I wouldn't touch the damn thing with a ten foot pole unless the end that touched the book was burning.

Pretty rings, sj!


Susan W. - Aug 05, 2008 8:48:17 am PDT #9850 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I've found it to help me in thinking creatively to avoid the battles of wills in the first place (anticipate them, go another route).

I just put it on hold at the library.

How do you divert when the struggle is over getting a kid to do what she has to do anyway, like take a bath or put her shoes on so you can leave the house on time?

One thing I did discover this morning is that AB had no clue why me missing my bus was such a bad thing, because she knows I just get the later bus. She doesn't have much of a concept of work beyond "the places where Mommy and Daddy go during the day while I'm at school," so she doesn't get that we have bosses, responsibilities, expectations, and all that. So I'm going to try to explain it to her at a level she can understand, and lay down specific consequences for behavior that makes us late.


Jessica - Aug 05, 2008 9:03:52 am PDT #9851 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

How do you divert when the struggle is over getting a kid to do what she has to do anyway, like take a bath or put her shoes on so you can leave the house on time?

My mom always made everything multiple choice - so "time to put your shoes on" becomes "Do you want to wear your sandals or your sneakers?" (Actually, I use the same tactic on our clients. We never never ask "what format do you need your master on?" Always "Do you want Digibeta or Uncompressed Quicktime?")

I've also heard of making getting ready to go in the morning into a race (and the winner gets a sticker, or first choice of music in the car or whatever), though that one probably works better when you're dealing with multiple kids.