Erika, not crazy. Super-talented too (from what I read). Just way off-base on this.

You're all unbelievably talented writers. I mean that. Susan, Barb, Allyson, Erika, Typo, Sail Aweigh, et al. When it comes to commercial success, it's talent, skill, persistence and luck. You can be born with the first, acquire and hone the second, break your head for years on the third, but there's no accounting for that last fickle bitch.

I typed a lot, deleted it, then read what Wolfram just said. I agree completely.

Thanks Wolfram. And maybe I really am a worse person than everyone else here. Because very occasionally I do feel a flicker of envy begrudging the published non-fiction writers on the list their having what I want. It does not last long, and never actually believe it. It is not one of my big demons; I can crush it quickly like Buffy crushing a fear demon. But it is there, and I do have to take the time to stomp it occasionally. And I know that Allyson occasionally gets assholes who attack her for her work. I suspect they have much bigger versions of the same demon, without the ability to recognize it or deal with it.

I'm not sure what to say or how to say it, but I swear it's never been my intention to act like I thought I was better than anyone else here. If anything, I'm awed by the amount of brilliance in this group. I loved Vampire People. I couldn't write anything like it in a million years, which makes me all the more impressed with Allyson's accomplishment. And that dance piece of Barb's the other day...I only wish I could describe action that well. I'm sure I could come up with many more examples if I searched back through the thread--those are just the two that come most immediately to mind.

I do tend to be a talky meat sort of person, and maybe I need to work on that if it's making me come across as more me-me-me and/or arrogant than I intend. I know I've vented about struggles and stresses of the writing process here, mostly because I felt like it was a safe place, unlike most of the other writing-related forums I'm on where I feel like I need to maintain my game face at all times. And maybe that was a mistake, but I swear I never meant to step on anyone's toes or do anything but vent over my own stresses and insecurities. When it comes to non-venting writing talk...well, I do tend to think that my WIP and the history that's driving my alternative history are about the coolest things in the world, and I'm often bubbling over with the urge to talk about them in a Wellington-likes-carrots sort of way. But I also know that's just my own personal obsession talking. I don't expect anyone to share it, though I'd love it if I can communicate some of my excitement.

and maybe I need to work on that if it's making me come across as more me-me-me and/or arrogant than I intend.

Susan, I think this is key, because there are occasions when it does seem that way (which something I'm sure everyone here's done in their own posting). This is a safe place and should be a safe place, and as such, I know it's easy to relax one's guard. But, personally - and I want to emphasize I'm using an example purely from my own behavior, not from anyone else's - there are times when I've realized I've gone beyond "relaxed cocktail party chatter" to "Animal throwing his drumset around the studio and yelling 'Animal! Animal!'" I've had to work to tone that down, and sometimes I fail.

This is a behavior you've noticed in yourself before, IIRC (the tone, not the turning-into-Animal). So maybe something to think about.

I went back and read a lot of Susan W's posts trying to understand erikaj's point of view but I'm not able to find anything that makes me think Susan thinks she's better than us.

Get published, read someone talk about how upsetting it is that she's been working very hard for a very long time and all these other folks (who aren't b.org, but still, it's just "other") keep getting book deals...

It's easy to find oneself in the post, even though it isn't her intent.

Because you can't see it, Laga, doesn't mean the issues someone like me may have (which, again, isn't Susan's fault to the tenth power infinity) don't suddenly start going off like a gong. I don't say anything about it because it's my own problem. I do completely see how erika got there.

I think it was an interpretation issue, but some of us are ripe for that. Unsure if erika feels like I do. Not speaking for the erika.

Get published, read someone talk about how upsetting it is that she's been working very hard for a very long time and all these other folks (who aren't b.org, but still, it's just "other") keep getting book deals...

I think it was an interpretation issue, but some of us are ripe for that.

Allyson speaks for me.

What I'm saying is, we're all emotionally charged artsy people banging our collective skulls against walls.

All I can say is that I'm very sorry for setting off anyone else's issues. It wasn't my intent, I had no idea I was doing it until this came up today, and I will be more careful in the future.