And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Susan W. - Aug 13, 2008 11:41:04 am PDT #581 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

erika, it has never been my intention (or my belief) to say that I'm more talented than everyone here, and I honestly don't see what in my post from today or any of my posts from before gave that impression.

Today in particular I wasn't even talking about anyone here--it was my reaction to something that happened on another list. I came here to vent specifically because I didn't want to offer anything *there* but my heartfelt congratulations. And I wasn't comparing myself to those writers--I couldn't if I wanted to, because I haven't read their stuff.


Typo Boy - Aug 13, 2008 11:42:15 am PDT #582 of 6681
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And I get insulted every time you post how you are so much more talented than everyone here.

I must have missed when she said that.


erikaj - Aug 13, 2008 11:48:51 am PDT #583 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

Ok, so she didn't. Today. That's what I get for letting things fester, I suppose. But that's definitely the feeling I get, a lot of the time. I've entered contests and lost too, and it didn't suck less for me. In fact, I felt like such a worthless loser that there wasn't a point about posting it.


Typo Boy - Aug 13, 2008 11:49:35 am PDT #584 of 6681
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh and Allyson, I hope when I confessed to envy of your talent and success it is not because your success is not deserved. Vampire People I think is likely to become classic, one of the best collections of personals essays either. If I revealed that an occasional envious though passes through my head, I was indulging in the Buffista habit of talking too much about personal problems. If one of my internal demons set off one of your internal demons I'm deeply sorry.


erikaj - Aug 13, 2008 11:52:14 am PDT #585 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

The only thing I hate about Vampire People is that I couldn't think of it first! Oh, and maybe that my Nilly story isn't in it.


Typo Boy - Aug 13, 2008 11:54:54 am PDT #586 of 6681
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Erika when you start feeling like a worthless loser, you have to know rationally it is not justified. Which does not help much I know, cause it is not the rational part of it that feels that way. But maybe talking about it would help.

Or maybe it would not. Some of us are more talky meat than others. But you know sometimes I talk pretty me-me-me not out of any belief I'm superior, but out of being deeply insecure. And I'd hate to think anyone I thought I was being a pain in the ass who thinks he's better than everyone else instead of a pain in the ass struggling with self-loathing. Though I hope not too much of a pain in the ass.


erikaj - Aug 13, 2008 12:00:34 pm PDT #587 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, although I totally admit that book was also not ready for its closeup.(But, no, that didn't stop me from mentally spending the prize money, either.) So, it's not that I don't get that kind of thing. I do. Maybe that's part of my irritation.


Wolfram - Aug 13, 2008 12:11:52 pm PDT #588 of 6681
Visilurking

And I get insulted every time you post how you are so much more talented than everyone here.

Umm, I'm not sure what posts you're reading, but I've never read anything from Susan that even remotely approaches a statement like that. (Also, I don't even want to repost the rest of your paragraph, but seriously?)


erikaj - Aug 13, 2008 12:16:26 pm PDT #589 of 6681
Always Anti-fascist!

Really? Fine. I'm crazy. (And apparently needing to go practice my sweet-and-vulnerable face.)


Allyson - Aug 13, 2008 12:23:46 pm PDT #590 of 6681
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It pings something in me where I feel pretty awful about having an agent, getting published, and having a a crumb of success on my first out.

I know that Susan isn't kicking me, and the ping is my issue, not hers, because it's my issue that I feel undeserving, talentless, like it was all a big mistake. Issue is totally mine.

Susan's lament doesn't have anything to do with me, I know. I know she doesn't begrudge me or anyone else in the room.

I just sometimes think that there are a ton of people who have written awesome shit that blows me out of the water who deserved the joy of a book signing.

That's where the post hit me. But I really know that the horrible ping wasn't Susan's intent. I swear. I know.

It doesn't make sense. No real logic in it. But there it is.